Welcome to our fourth episode, on public engagement with mathematics.

Sitting with us are Julian Koellermeier and Roland van der Veen, which will share what drove them to mathematics and their deep passion for engaging with adults and kids outside our university bubble.

We will discuss the importance of time and reflection, the role of grants in our research, the many advantages of learning how to communicate mathematics to broader audiences despite the lack of support of it.

Episode links:

• Julian Koellermeier's website: ⁠https://www.math.rug.nl/j.koellermeier
• Roland van der Veen's website: ⁠http://rolandvdv.nl
• Roland's book on the Riemann hypothesis:
  https://maa.org/press/maa-reviews/the-riemann-hypothesis
• Indra's pearls (Note by Roland: the amazing book I wrote by bachelor's thesis about): https://www.ams.org/notices/200301/rev-marden.pdf
• Roland's PhD defense dance demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6zxKBUI3wY

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Produced by Marcello Seri and Marit van Straaten

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Illustrations by Henrieke Krijgsheld

The podcast soundtrack is derived from the royalty free track Starving by OctoSound and used in agreement with pixabay license https://pixabay.com/music/funk-starving-170377

We are grateful to the Faculty of Science and Engineering of the University of Groningen for allowing to use its podcast recording facilities for this episode