This episode explores the question of what Dr. King and Malcolm X would teach today's leaders. Odell Bizzell and Casey J. Cornelius explore the dynamic between the two iconic figures, challenging the common perception that Dr. King was the safe, peaceful leader while Malcolm X sought confrontation. He argues that both leaders embodied elements of each other, emphasizing the importance of understanding the system, effective communication, and collaboration toward a common goal.

Odell draws on his personal experiences and encounters with stereotypes, encouraging listeners to move beyond performative actions, such as sharing quotes, and to delve deeper into the context of the messages they share. The conversation navigates through the complexities of leadership, diversity, and inclusion, offering valuable insights for individuals and organizations seeking to make a positive impact in their communities.

Casey and Odell discuss the significance of getting to know individuals beyond the surface, urging listeners to seek context before sharing content. They also touch on the misuse of quotes by organizations and the importance of genuine understanding.

Tune in to this insightful episode as Casey and Odell engage in a thought-provoking conversation that goes beyond the surface, encouraging listeners to embrace the complexities of leadership and social change.