In this episode of the Tes International podcast we chat with Liz Free, CEO and director at International School Rheintal (ISR) in Switzerland, about how she set about establishing a relationship with her board of governors that worked for both her and them to benefit the school, and why this isn't as easy as it sounds.

She also discusses the tricky topic of when and how to call on external consultants to help you - from how you pick the right person or organisation for your needs and making it clear what you want them to do - and why sometimes you have to decide their advice is not right for your setting, even if you've paid good money for it.

All that and lots more...