The main drivers will start next year's Bathurst 1000, no matter how much the team owners bang on about it, we told you it was happening six months ago now we give you the two ways it can happen.

We have another whack for the Supercars Website and App, Barcs from Brighton, they aren't very good. In F1 we talk about Oscar's star on the rise and discuss if Max Verstappen is a racer or a driver... then PG goers all gooey over Le Mans and We talk about Calder Park again, well Bruce does while we listen.