Michael Levine is an American writer and public relations expert. He is the author of many books on public relations including Guerrilla PR and he has represented 58 Academy Award winners, 34 Grammy Award winners, and 43 New York Times best-sellers, including Michael Jackson, Barbra Streisand, and George Carlin among many others. Michael is also the founder of Boundless Media (www.boundlessmediausa.com)

In this incredible episode, Susan and Michael discuss 'Perception vs Reality' in politics. Asking many probing questions, such as; "Why is Joe Biden (perceived) not loved?" "How does Trump do it?" Michael brings his expertise to the conversation with some fascinating examples and some incredible anecdotes to prove these theories.

All this and more on No Holding Back with Susan Estrich.

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