Environmental Intricacies Explored

The People's Countryside Environmental Debate Podcast

21-01-2024 • 38 mins

Nature can be a puzzle when trying to unravel the threads of and the motivations behind tree planting, and population growth.

Welcome to another episode of The People's Countryside Environmental Debate Podcast, where your cohosts Stuart 'The Wildman' Mabbutt and William Mankelow delve into the intricacies of two thought-provoking questions posed by listeners.

In this episode, listener Elaine from Telford, England, sparks a debate about humanity's place in the natural order. Elaine’s questions is as follows:

“Right from the start, life's evolution has always formed and influenced the makeup of the Earth's atmosphere, with various tipping points along the way. Why wouldn’t man’s population passing 9.5 billion again be a tipping point? When will we all admit that human existence will have positive and negative effects on the planet? Will there ever be a time when we’re not motivated to change just because it has a personal benefit on us or our pockets?”

William resonates with the idea that we are an integral part of nature, questioning if our current population growth is simply a facet of the natural process. Stuart delves into the consequences of human actions, emphasising the conscious impact we have on the environment compared to previous species. They explore together the concept of sustainability, touching on the challenges of controlling population growth and the complexities of an ageing demographic.

Listener Roman from Slovakia, brings forward a question on the effectiveness of tree planting in addressing environmental issues. The question is as follows:

“Is tree planting the best thing for conservation? Natural succession gives you functioning communities of trees and shrubs genetically suited to their environment, plus all the species that go along with that. Firstly, planting trees by-passes the natural successional stages that so much of our biodiversity depends on. Secondly, many planted trees are not from local genetic stock and sometimes not even from the same country.  Thirdly, many/most planted trees are not properly looked after and many die. Fourthly, and leading on from the above, planting trees costs a lot of money and if many/most die it's arguably a waste of money. Is it better to reduce the amount of trees we are cutting down and the drivers behind that cutting?”

Stuart challenges the notion that tree planting alone can solve problems, highlighting the importance of considering how, when, and where it's done. William expands on the idea, stressing the need for diverse habitats and cautioning against a narrow focus on creating forests. The cohosts examine the deeper implications of planting trees, contemplating the anthropocentric perspective and emphasising the importance of caring for the trees we plant.

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