#37 Mountain climbing to product building—Endurance, Empathy & Rituals ft. Lane Shackleton (CPO, Coda | Athlete)

The Founder's Foyer with Aishwarya Ashok

04-02-2024 • 59 mins

00:00 Introduction to Lane

01:14 Lane's Nonlinear Career Path

04:09 How Endurance Helps With Success

12:51 Importance of Mindset in Product Building

23:19 Power of Shipping and Learning by Making

26:49 The Origin of the 'Rituals' Concept

29:03 Offer Parties: Gusto’s Ritual with Job Offers

29:51 Transforming Status Quo Rituals

30:58 Impact of Feedback in Product Development

33:01 Influence of French Literary Salons

37:46 Authenticity and Serendipity in Community Building

43:44 Creative People and Connections

46:14 The Ritual Pack: Enhancing Team Meetings and Decision Making

58:01 Intentionality in Building Culture


Everyone’s got an interesting journey into crafting their product careers—the best part is to embrace all of our facets and dimensions and see how to bring them into one picture. And over time, that translates to exploring habits that help us stay in those dimensions and keep learning, not just from our own work but from networks around us. How to channelize these non-linear paths, find rituals, and focus on growth while building products?Lane Shackleton is the CPO of Coda. Lane previously led product teams at YouTube and Google, and brings in a set of unique work experiences from before. Lane works with so many creators across the globe and digs deep into empathy, goal setting, and stories.In this episode of The Founder's Foyer, Aishwarya and Lane delve into the concept of product rituals and the importance of habits in fostering product growth. Lane shares insights from his nonlinear career path, his approach towards leadership, the significance of enduring pain, and the role of mindfulness in product development. He highlights the significance of mental models, the role of serendipity, and the importance of maintaining authenticity in community engagement

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