Table Pancakes

Katherine Foster and Shelbi Jones

In a culture that’s lacking in connection, it can sometimes be as simple as grabbing breakfast with a friend and chatting about life. Inspired by our ritual of pancake dates, join co-hosts Katherine and Shelbi as we discuss any and everything that comes to mind and heart, from navigating adult relationships with parents to 30-somethings’ social dynamics and our uncensored life observations along the way.




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In or Out?: The Friend Group
2d ago
In or Out?: The Friend Group
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi to tap into the friend group discourse, exploring the benefits and drawbacks in order to see if it’s fair for them to be under fire.Are We Mad at Something We All Want?Eli Rallo’s TikTok sparked online debate, offering a hot take that friend groups are terrible and limitingSo many people desire to be a part of a friend group, so the negative take may validate feelings (and serve as a rallying cry) for people who aren’t in anyWhile cliques certainly bring negative friendship experiences, we believe that “friend group” is really a blanket term that has to be broken down into specific and unique experiencesPro-Camaraderie, Anti-GroupthinkFriend groups can be hard to find as an adult but there’s less likelihood of ending up in the dynamic of a high school era cliqueNot only do friend groups provide a sense of belonging, but they allow you to expand your experiences and connect through embracing playful energy and spontaneityWhen friends spread out and move to various places, the group dynamic is a key vehicle for keeping everyone connectedSeasons of Socialization & Going OutWhile there are certainly seasons of friendship, our relationship to going out is impacted by the 4 seasons themselves, with winter months often bringing more exclusivity than the othersThe pandemic drastically shifted how and where friends go out and build community, and many people are still figuring out what feels right and what effort is realistically required in order to work through thisIn the spirit of levity, we’re a big fan of parties just because, less cerebral mindsets when going out, and being okay with the friction that can naturally come with leaving the houseQuestion of the Week:What do you think about friend groups and the role they play in your life? How do your group dynamics (or more individual friend hangs) shape how you go out and spend your social time?Reminder: We're on Spring Break next week! The show returns on 4/24. Catch up on episodes and leave us some notes to come back to :) You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com and leave us a voice memo here. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Prioritizing Friendship
03-04-2024
Prioritizing Friendship
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi to discuss prioritizing friendship in our daily lives, now and in the future (plus, how they’re prioritizing Beyoncé’s new album, Cowboy Carter).Strong Friendships Stretch TogetherAdult friendships require us to stretch in various ways, from anticipating needs and providing emotional support to applauding our friends and seeking out adventure togetherThe 5 love languages (words of affirmation, acts of service, receiving gifts, quality time, physical touch, along with two new ones of shared experiences and emotional security) make us think about learning how to show up for friends in their love language, even if it’s one that doesn’t come naturally to youIt can be overwhelming and exhausting to figure out how to find new ways to spend time with friends and expand together, but solving the puzzle is rewardingIt Takes a VillageHow society frames platonic relationships to be less important than romantic relationships can be stressful if you aren’t in a romantic relationshipThere’s opportunity to give grace to friends who haven’t experienced deep friendship because perhaps there was never a need for that setup (and also encourage them to try it)Actively choosing the hard way to curate a village of friends who also believe in building a life alongside friendsEvaluating the risk of friendships fading away due to a lack of capacity or effort, referencing Frank Bruni’s, Opinion | The Friends Who Got Away - The New York Times (3/14/24)Friendships Fit for the FutureDiscussing friends who you share things with that may typically be shared with a romantic partner (sometimes referred to as other significant others or platonic partners)There’s joy in your friends’ people becoming your people tooWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com and leave us a voice memo here. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Relationship Status: Friendship Breakups
27-03-2024
Relationship Status: Friendship Breakups
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi in making space to discuss friendship breakups and coming to terms with long-standing friendships that don't serve you.Friendship Breakups and, Dare We Say, DivorcesPlatonic relationships can be just as intense to navigate as romantic onesTwo things can be true at once, with friendship breakups being devastating but also freeing you from a relationship that doesn’t serve youSometimes a silent line is drawn in the sand to close a friendship, particularly when your personal capacity changes and you don’t feel you’re being supportedDebating the “chop”, a direct communication that someone is out of your life, versus recognizing apparent signs that the friendship is overTrusting Your Gut vs. Making Room for EvolutionIt’s important to reconcile caring for someone and honoring your history together with holding yourself to a standard and demonstrating self respectFriendships are some of the longest standing relationships we’ll have in our lives but we also have to assess when change is necessary (and when someone is capable of it)Loving, caring friends should be given grace, but not everyone deserves unconditional love and considerationLingering at a StandstillQuestioning if someone should be in your life and where you go from here when something is off and hasn’t been addressed or resolvedStandstills can feel heavily quiet, with lack of communication, gaslighting, and operating in separate realities and on different narrativesSome people may take the easier way out if they hold more power in relation to societal norms, which can result in them not making an effort to try to repair it and not showing up authentically (even if this isn’t indicative of how they feel)It can be hard to balance addressing a situation and letting people off the hook because you have bigger fish to fry, but this leaves people open to access your life through social media without interacting with you and for grievances to add upQuestion of the Week:Have you ever gone through a friendship breakup or standstill? What tools and language did you feel you had or didn’t have to help you navigate, and how did this impact you and your friend?We'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com and leave us a voice memo here. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Evolution of Friendship
13-03-2024
The Evolution of Friendship
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi to discuss friendship evolutions, and how closeness and distance in relationships are impacted as a result.Embracing Friends as FamilyClose friends often become members of your chosen family, and may even become close to your given family tooFriendships can evolve into accountability partnerships, providing positive feedback and reality checks as you work towards your goalsHaving less free time means getting creative with staying in touch, like sending “mini podcast” voice notes and body doubling to lessen the load for each otherShifting Priorities and New NormalsRecognizing that sometimes life can put a little distance between friends, and it’s fair to both give grace as life evolves and also feel disappointed by the changeUnderstanding that not everyone wants intimate, deep connection in friendship so it’s important to find people who want the same type of friendship as youThere’s beauty in discussing futures with your friends and how you’ll remain important parts of each others’ lives and communitiesDistance Makes the Heart Grow…DiscerningDistance doesn’t have to be negative, as it can mean walking away from mismatched expectations and moving closer to what is right for you and your authentic selfEveryone is ultimately responsible for distance and deciding what actions to take (or not take) to see where the relationship landsWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Share Your Work
06-03-2024
Share Your Work
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi for an honest conversation about the importance of sharing your work, supporting others in their projects, and recognizing that everyone is a creative.The Necessity of Putting Your Work Out ThereRecognizing that sharing your work is a critical part of the creative process and not only extends your reach but creates an opportunity to connect with othersShowing your truest self by putting what you do out into the world, from a finished product to letting people see behind the scenesEmbracing the reality that many creatives are multi-hyphenates and some full-time workplaces may be better suited for birthing side hustles than othersEmbracing Marketing Even When It Just Seems ToughWhile many people are interested in seeing the full process, it can sometimes seem counterintuitive to share your whole creative journey, making it a skill that has to be developedSome social media like Instagram can be intimidating platforms for sharing because you have followers from many walks of life, but it’s a chance to keep people updated who would love to lend support as you continue your journeyNot every creative is a marketer, not every marketer is a creative, and some people can do it all (referencing Rebecca Jennings’ Vox article, Everyone's a sellout now)Being a Fan of Your Own WorkWe’re inspired by the Tyler, The Creator Converse interview (starting at 43:19 minutes) and the insistence of being a fan of your own workThe amount of promotion you do around your work should relate to the time, energy, and passion that you put into the processA healthy amount of shamelessness allows you to create even when the stars don’t feel fully aligned, and presents opportunities when you keep pushing your work forwardLet’s All Be Hype FriendsFriends and family supporting projects can look like unconditional likes and engagement, constructive feedback that holds important context, and emotional support that helps the work come to lifeKeeping fellow creatives close is amazing for community, workshopping, gathering outside point of views, and mutual understanding as you go about your workInforming friends of what you’re up to allows them to tout what you do even when you are not in the roomAn elevator pitch of what you do is important for everyone you encounter, from experienced creators in your dream field to your friendsWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Solo Time
28-02-2024
Solo Time
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi as they reflect on solo time, why they embrace it, and where it stands in our individualistic, digitally connected, and increasingly lonely society.Expressing What We Want and Need from Alone TimeHuman Design helps in understanding when and how we need to be alone, whether it’s to rest, think, or be inspired by what’s around usThe importance of informing others that you can’t be there when you’re dipping into solo timeFinding Comfort in Being With Yourself Solo time can serve as an opportunity to make progress towards your goals, lean into contentment, and deeply learn about yourself“If you are lonely when you’re alone you are in bad company.” - Jean-Paul SartreEmbracing the “delicious” nature of aloneness and knowing that “you are with you” (referencing Aloneness by Gwendolyn Brooks, in minutes 39:22-42:03 of her University of Iowa poetry reading on March 4, 1974)Examining Convenience’s Cost Over ConnectionWhile time is a commodity for all, it’s important to extend the invitation to connect if you’re enjoying getting to know someoneSocial media voyeurism isn’t a form of connecting, but engaging with someone’s content to show interest and share commonalities is an easy way to reach outSeeking Community in an Increasingly Pay-to-Play SocietyThere’s an opportunity to keep an eye out for loneliness in others and connect them to people whose company they may enjoy and benefit fromInstagram serves as a modern day calling card with public displays of activity increasing loneliness in others, demonstrating that “solitude is less solitary than ever” (referencing Derek Thompson’s article, Why Americans Suddenly Stopped Hanging Out, in The Atlantic)We’re seeing a decline in free/low cost community institutions and an increase in elite bubbles of privileged community, creating a messy middle phase in society as we unravel individualism, unpack capitalism, and learn soft skills to develop meaningful relationshipsWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Stepping Out of the House
21-02-2024
Stepping Out of the House
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi as they explore the age-old question of whether or not to leave the house and, if so, …where to?Finding Comfort (or Inconvenience) in Third PlacesHow membership clubs create community and serve as an insurance policy, but at a sizable cost (referencing The Stanza podcast episode featuring Annabel Schwartz, Exclusivity sells: structuring an effective membership program)Considering how our go-to places have changed and how we’ve changed, particularly from the pandemic and economic climate, and the adjustments to how we spend our resources (time, money, emotional, mental, social)The ever-evolving social media culture that has created friction in our restaurant experiences but also made occasionally going out to eat feel more specialOvercoming Strange Places and Unfamiliar FacesThe interest in finding our Cheers spots, mixed with the need for a low barrier to entry for being social and the patience required to explore new environmentsSeeking baseline commonality (e.g. hobbies, interests, goals) when finding new spaces or spending time with new peopleBalancing Fringe Friends and Solo TimeBalancing an increased desire for alone time in order to get things done with engaging in more casual friendships, referencing Juliana Kaplan’s article, America is facing a 'fringe friend' crisis, in Business Insider)Recognizing that we are in a relatively new landscape of building community and prioritizing friendship as more people (although not the majority) live further away from familyWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
All in Love
14-02-2024
All in Love
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi as we celebrate love and all of the relationships where it shows up in our lives - with friends, ourselves, in dating (in our case, maybe not so much!)Navigating Friendship as We Get OlderThe importance of connecting, communicating, and diving in deep with friends to fortify yourself and your relationships as life progressesThe reality that everyone is grieving something and we should give more space for that while holding loved ones accountable as we move into our thirties (referencing Dan Levy’s Good Grief on Netflix and related conversations on the podcasts Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso and We Can Do Hard Things)Understanding friends’ support systems and where you lie in that ecosystemEmbracing the Different Paths We All Find Ourselves OnA part of leading with love is embracing curiosity and investing in differencesPaths diverging can empower us to see what we stand and help others in turn by voicing our truths (referencing Chrissy Ford’s FWD; Joy newsletter interview, How Human Design Can Help You Live a More Authentic Life with Maike Gabriela)The importance of establishing a commitment to each other no matter where life takes everyone to combat loneliness with connection (referencing Kate Bowler’s Everything Happens podcast with Vivek Murthy & Jon Scheyer: Made to Belong)Diving Into Dating (Sort of?)The desire for friends to be as thrilled about what excites you as the prospect of being taken off the market by a man who is a strangerConsidering the role of neutrality in how we respond, and balancing reading the room and reading between the lines in order to meet people where they are atCelebrating Self LoveLeaning into your dreams, setting boundaries, granting yourself grace, being patient with yourself, and believing in yourself as forms of self loveWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Keeping in Touch, Staying Connected
07-02-2024
Keeping in Touch, Staying Connected
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi to talk through all the ways to keep connection going with people near and far.Staying in Touch with Friends & FamilyWe break down the social media platforms that provide entertaining discourse and a glimpse of what friends are up toDiscussion on what works for juggling text messages, FaceTime, and everything in betweenSocial Media as an Amusing Venue for ConnectionThe rogue, "loosey goosey" nature of Instagram Close Friends, finstas, and Snapchat to keep us entertained and see friends’ antics in real timeTikTok for its discoverability of people around you and friends’ delightful curations of repostsWe reflect on the humor of Twitter and the reality of Instagram being a highlight reel and its limitation of expressing the full story of how someone is doing and how things are goingStaying on Top of Phone Inbound and OutboundWe are pro group chat and its lighthearted nature mixed with constant presence (referencing Sophie Haigney’s article, How Group Chats Rule the World, in the New York Times)Getting our texting to “inbox zero” with the challenge of parsing through action items, shared content, and balancing thoughtful responses with delays in replyingThe Importance of Hearing and Seeing Loved OnesWe navigate how communication fits into busy schedules, the demands of life, and screen fatigueHow voice notes, phone calls, and FaceTimes allow you to hear and see the smaller details of someone’s day that serve as context to help paint the picture of their lifeWe underscore the importance of dropping by and dropping in, whether in person or through the phoneWe'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Welcome to Table Pancakes
24-01-2024
Welcome to Table Pancakes
Welcome to Table Pancakes, the podcast where meaningful conversations happen over a plate of metaphorical pancakes! Join hosts Katherine and Shelbi as they take you on a journey through the roots of their friendship and set the stage for the delicious discussions to come. In our inaugural episode, we discuss the following: How We Became Friends: Learn about the serendipitous moments and third places that laid the foundation for our connectionTable Pancakes Unveiled: We dive into the symbolism behind our quirky show title and uncover the themes that ties our episodes together. Find out why we believe in the power of a good plate of pancakes paired with a deep chat. Our Need for Deep Chats in Quiet Spaces: In a world that never slows down, we explore the importance of deep conversations and the value of quiet spaces. Hear all about our personal experiences that led us to create a podcast dedicated to fostering genuine connections and thought-provoking discussions.What to Expect from Future Episodes: The fun doesn’t end with our origin story! We provide a sneak peak into the array of topics we will be discussing in upcoming episodes. From discussions about friendship, adult relationships with parents and dating. We promise a variety that will keep you wanting more! We'd love to hear your thoughts. You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com. We'd also love if you'd rate, review and subscribe to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.