Welcome back to Craftcast: The Freemasons Podcast.

In this extra special episode, James, Shaun and Stephen sit down with the new Pro Grand Master Jonathan Spence to delve into his Masonic journey and explore his vision for the future of Freemasonry.

How did he become a Freemason?

How do you even become a ruler?

How does Freemasonry need to evolve and where does his seven year plan come in?

Plus we ask him about his favourite drinks and more.

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