Welcome to episode 16 of Conversations Late at Night, Lessons from Ojiichan. We start this chat off by diving into what nostalgia means for us and then things progress from there. We hear SJF's favourite poem by Mary Oliver; Wild Geese, talk about Kaitiaki - the Māori term for the concept of guardianship - and about the lessons we can learn from generations that came before us.

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