Can we access the value of deep reflection while encountering something meaningful? Or is that a hard-learned lesson? Does something endure because we have a fond memory of the first encounter with it? Or is staying power baked into the things we love?

Passionate art lover and dedicated seeker of beauty Avery Kastin joins the ever-prolific and imaginative Sam Ross in a discussion about endurance, both personal and artistic. If this is what a 17th century French Salon would have been like... you and I would quite possibly be hooked.