Wild About Kinder

“It’s really important that I get outside, out of the fluorescent lights, out of my uniform, and chase my own dreams and chase my own wants and desires outside of the career that I love so much.”Sarah Barker says that she can’t fully explain what it is about Kinder Scout that she loves so much but she thinks it’s because it makes her feel a certain way. It feels safe one minute and threatening another and she likes the challenge of both those places. In the first part of this interview you'll listen to Sarah talking about her first wildcamp on Kinder Scout and why she leaves the comfort of her family home to go out alone in nature to spend a night on a local hill or mountain. We recorded this part while hunkered down in the porch of her tent on Grindslow Knoll until we gave in to the howling wind and cold to the warmth of a log fire in my bungalow in Edale village.In the second half of the interview, Sarah shares why she started her YouTube channel which beautifully documents her wildcamping trips, how she learned navigation skills and of course what makes her Wild About Kinder. Sarah's biographySarah is a Midwife, she chose this career path because she has an innate passion and drive for nurturing people. Supporting families through vulnerable life events is at the core of who she is and she gains a great deal of satisfaction from caring for birthing people as they become families. She lives with her Husband, teenage children and 4 dachshunds near the Peak District and has recently been working on renovating her forever home. She has a YouTube channel with over 3000 subscribers and 74 videos published to date. She started filming her camping adventures in 2024 and now believes that her videos have become an important extension to her camps to keep them alive for longer. The unique connections that she has made with ‘the best friends she may never meet’ continues to bring her joy and is highly motivating for herself and for others who either wish to explore the outdoors themselves or do so already. This diary of memories will continue to build throughout her exploration of the Peak District predominantly and become a legacy to her family when she is no longer able to do it. LinksSubscribe to Sarah’s YouTube channel: SoloSarahBFollow Sarah on Instagram: solosarahbxWritten feature on Wild About Kinder website: "A Tidy Mind on Kinder Scout" - by Sarah BarkerReferencesPatrick DickinsonAndrew BeaversMountain Walks Kinder Scout book - by Sarah ListerRecording dateThis interview was recorded on Grindslow Knoll and later at my home in Edale on 19th December 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder

Martin Porter says that the 1932 Mass Trespass of Kinder Scout is two stories that cross over. One is the story about how we regained access to the land, and the other one is the story of British communism. In this interview he sets the wider historical context, shares his interpretation of the event, and describes some of the people involved. Later on in the episode Martin talks about his personal connection with Kinder Scout and the trespass, describes his favourite walk and finally adds the role of Edale in the Kinder trespass. Martin lives in Glossop and is the grandson of Claude Porter who was part of the Kinder Trespass in 1932.Martin has been an environmental activist for more than 20 years and helps to run the Manchester Greenpeace Group. He is also a qualified Social Worker and holds the role of Adult Care Convenor for Derbyshire UNISON. Between 1988 to 1991 he studied Physics with Astrophysics at the University of Leicester. LinksMartin Porter on LinkedInMartin Porter on XThe Greenman blog by MartinReferencesManchester Greenpeace on FacebookDerbyshire UnisonFurther reading and informationForbidden Kinder by Keith WarrenderVery scarce 1932 Kinder Trespass by Benny RothmanMass Trespass video by WellRedFilms featuring Martin PorterThe Communist PLOT That Changed The English Countryside - documentary by Stephen ReidRecording dateThis interview was recorded near Oller Brook in Edale on 17th October 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

Where did you feel separated from during the national lockdowns? Yvonne says that she longed for Kinder Scout in a way she never had before, missing it almost as she would an old friend. In this interview, Yvonne reads two of her poems, ‘To a Snow Hare’ and ‘Dear Tor’, while sitting among the boulders of the Woolpacks on Kinder Scout. She chose this setting because of the characterful rocks that resemble living creatures. I asked her about her creative process, what she has learnt about protecting mountain hares, how poetry has become part of her life, and why Kinder Scout is a special place to her. I think you’ll really enjoy Yvonne’s eloquent storytelling, fun nature and stirring words.A mountain hare came hopping past while recording which was only the second time that Yvonne has seen one on Kinder Scout. We were lucky to capture this very special experience while the microphones were on. Yvonne Reddick is a poet and researcher. She is the author of Ted Hughes: Environmentalist and ecopoet, 2017 and Burning Season, a collection of poems, 2023. Burning Season won the Laurel Prize for Best UK First Collection of Ecopoetry and was shortlisted for the Saltire Poetry Book of the Year Award 2023. It was a BBC Radio 4 Poetry Extra Book of the Month for January 2024.With the wildlife filmmaker Aleksander Domanski, she made the film Searching for Snow Hares, shortlisted for the BMC’s Women in Adventure film awards. You can read more about her work here.LinksBurning Season book by Yvonne ReddickAnthropocene Poetry: Place, Environment and Planet book by Yvonne Reddick@yvonnereddickwriter on Instagram@YvonneReddick on TwitterYvonne’s websiteReferencesTed HughesPenny Pot CafeSearching for Mountain Hares - Cairngorms on YouTubeBMCRecording dateThis interview was recorded at The Woolpacks on Kinder Scout on 11th May 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Subscribe to the newsletter and send in your...

“I love to imagine I’m back home on the hill that started it all for me, even though it’s worlds apart.” In this interview we listen to Andrew Terrill’s memories of walking, running and bivvying on Kinder Scout and why these experiences have had such a powerful and lasting impact in his life. He says that being in nature gave him the confidence to be himself.You’ll soon be able to tell that Andrew is a writer because of the way that he expresses himself and shares his anecdotes. He is a wonderful storyteller and reflects on his memories of Kinder with fondness. He says that he misses wandering in the mist, the sideways rain and the bogs squelching underfoot and being cold and damp.This interview is entertaining, heart-warming and inspiring. We hear from a man who shares openly and generously about how his journeys have changed him. There’s an air of curiosity and playfulness to his storytelling that I think you’ll find really engaging. Andrew has written two books: The Earth Beneath My Feet (published June 1, 2021) and On Sacred Ground (published October 1, 2022). The books take readers on a 7,000-mile wilderness walk into the heart of wild nature. He also writes regularly on his blog which he describes as an outdoor diary, and shares beautiful photography. LinksVisit Andrew’s websiteBuy his books Follow Andrew on InstagramFollow Andrew on FacebookContact Andrew hereReferencesArticle - An Ode to Kinder Scout(First published in TGO, August 2005)Mountain Walks Kinder Scout Blog article - Acting my ageKinder Log by T. Nelthorpe (Cicerone, 1987)Recording dateThis interview was recorded online on 21st February 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Subscribe to the newsletter and send in your contributions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

What does it smell like when you're sitting up on Kinder Scout Plateau? ‘Patron of the Bog’ Bella Hardy describes it as sweet and earthy. During this episode she shares memories of growing up in Edale, ‘beating the bounds’ with the local community, stories about sleeping dragons and giants from her childhood, and reflects on what makes her wild about Kinder. It’s a place that both inspires her music and gives her brain a break. You’ll hear Bella play the fiddle - ‘Broadlee Bank’ and ‘Crowden jig’ at the beginning and the end of this interview.Bella is a folk musician, with many of her songs inspired by the landscape and folk tales of the Peak District. The ‘Dark Peak and The White’ album is her first collection of music specifically from the area, with adaptations and new tunes to works from ‘The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire’ published 1867, and original songs written for the history, folklore and legends of the area. Bella attended Edale CE Primary School and Hope Valley College and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in English literature from York St John University in 2005 and a Master of Music degree from the University of Newcastle in 2007. You can read more about Bella on her website.Listen now to find out why Bella thinks Kinder Scout is a unique place.LinksBella’s websiteFollow Bella on InstagramListen to Bella’s songs on SpotifyFollow Bella on BandcampReferencesThe Dark Peak and The WhiteWith the dawnFirst light of the morningHares on the MountainLoving Hannah Africa’s Mountains of the moon by Guy YeomanMoors For The Future Recording dateThis interview was recorded at Bella’s home in Edale on 15th January 2024.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging

Kinder Scout is Paul’s favourite place. In this interview he describes why it’s special to him and why he thinks it’s loved by others. He poses the question: “How can something that has taken lives and can be so threatening and violent be beautiful?” Paul shares timeless stories and reflections that will both capture and hold your attention. If you’re familiar with the landscape and nature of Kinder then you’ll undoubtedly find yourself nodding and smiling to yourself while you listen. This will be an episode to return to time and time again, and will leave you wanting more!Paul Besley is a writer who lives in Sheffield. His books include, Day Walks in the South Pennines and 1001 Walking Tips for Vertebrate Publishing, and three Peak District guidebooks for Cicerone Press. He has also written for outdoor magazines. For many years Paul volunteered as a ranger for the Peak District National Park. He was also a team member of Woodhead Mountain Rescue, and a dog handler in Mountain Rescue Search Dogs England with his Border Collie, Scout. Listen now to find out why Paul thinks Kinder Scout is magical!LinksBuy Paul's book: The Search - The life of a mountain rescue search dog team by Vertebrate Publishing.Paul Besley’s story about when he fell off a mountainPaul Besley on Mountain Walking Newbies podcast: Episode 1, Episode 2, Episode 3.ReferencesScout on Twitter and InstagramDoug Scott obituary in The GuardianHenry MooreMark RichardsCiceroneAndrew BeaversRecording dateThis interview was recorded inside a barn at Lee Farm along the start of the Pennine Way towards Jacobs Ladder on Kinder Scout, on Friday 3rd November 2023. Host &...

Kinder Scout has a special place in Wayne’s psyche. When he was a child, his father would drive regularly along the snake pass. Due to unreliable automotive mechanics they often had to take pit stops along the pass. At the time he was reading passages of Lord of the Rings to Wayne and images of the misty Snake Wood and views of Fairbrook Naze made quite an impression on this estate kid from the North West. Since then, Wayne has had many adventures on Kinder Scout and he’s on a mission to represent this beguiling place in his artwork.In this interview, Wayne shares how terrifying tall tales and snatch sightings of Kinder Scout from afar captured his imagination and ignited his curiosity. He shares with us how, in contrast, he feels when he’s having a mooch and an amble on Kinder Scout these days; what he learns about the landscape by drawing it and how an appreciation of the practice of historical and contemporary landscape artists informs his thinking, painting and teaching practice. Wayne is Director of Creative Arts at Redhill Academy Trust and Head of Art at Brookfield Community School.This interview was recorded in four parts. We met at the Winter Gardens in Sheffield for coffee and lunch before heading to a Millenium Gallery store for a private tour of a selection of stunning landscape art exhibitions selected by Wayne. A few weeks later we met in Edale for a short walk on Kinder Scout where we recorded outside close to Jacob’s Ladder. Finally, we met at the Penny Pot Cafe in Edale for a sketching tutorial and lots of coffee! Wayne’s linksInstagram https://www.instagram.com/waynefallon/Twitter https://twitter.com/MrWFallonLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-fallon-55586a269/ReferencesMillennium Gallery in Sheffield https://www.sheffieldmuseums.org.uk/visit-us/millennium-gallery/Paul Henry - Rain on the bog paintingRobert Macfarlane “Wild Places”Simon Schama “Landscape and Memory”Peak District Artisans https://www.peakdistrictartisans.co.uk/Norman Ackroyd http://www.normanackroyd.com/John Newland https://www.birchamgallery.co.uk/catalogue/artist/John:Newland/biography/Heaton Cooper Gallery https://www.heatoncooper.co.uk/Penny Pot Cafe in Edale https://pennypotcafe.com/Recording datesThis interview was recorded at:Winter Gardens in Sheffield and Millennium Gallery store on 2nd August 2023Kinder Scout on 28th August 2023Penny Pot Cafe on 9th September 2023Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your feedback...

Kinder Scout was Clare’s first ever walk in the Peak District and she’s been back many times  since then. In this interview she shares the joy that she feels while walking and teaching navigation here and what it’s like to bring other people here who don’t feel confident to explore alone.Clare is a qualified Mountain Leader and National Navigation Award Scheme Course Director. She has worked in the outdoor industry for over 20 years. She began her outdoor career working as a walking guide for Exodus, and later for Walking Women. In 2016, she set up Navigation for Women to help women develop new skills, gain confidence in their map and compass reading and put these skills into practice in the hills of the UK. Having long dreamt about running her own walking company for women, she set up Her on a Hill in 2019 to offer a range of guided walking holidays, navigation courses, and guided day walks and workshops.Listen now to find out what makes Clare feel wild about Kinder.LinksHer on a HillNavigation for WomenRecording dateThis interview was recorded at Madwoman’s Stones, Kinder Scout, on 16th June 2023.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

Kinder Scout is a place steeped in memory, reflection and gratitude for Pete Wallroth. In this interview he shares his personal connection with the brooding landscape through family life, loss and grief.Pete loved walking on Kinder Scout with his late wife Mair, eventually prompting them to move to Glossop so that they could access Kinder Scout more easily. After her death at 41 he walked many of the same routes with his daughter in tow and now carrying her little brother too. In his grief and recovery he began running and his first forays into trail and fell running were to retrace and run those same routes that had brought them to the area in the first place. Pete is the founder and CEO of the charity Mummy’s Star, set up in 2013 in memory of his wife Mair, to offer support to women diagnosed with cancer during pregnancy or within 12 months of having a baby. This episode is dedicated to Pete’s late wife, Mair Wallroth. LinksMummy’s Star charityPete Wallroth on TwitterPete Wallroth on InstagramPete’s Kinder Scout storyReferencesJen Scotney on InstagramGlossop Mountain Rescue TeamRecording dateThis interview was recorded near Crowden Tower, Kinder Scout, on 7th December 2022.Host & ProductionBy Sarah Lister, About The AdventureContact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationSend in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions.Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

How does Kinder Scout influence and impact the communities that live around it? In this interview we hear the perspective of a resident farmer in Edale. Andrew Critchlow shares fascinating historical information about Edale and Kinder Scout, his knowledge about farming, and his interest in land management. At the end he describes what makes him wild about Kinder Scout, and what his life here has taught him. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.Andrew Critchlow is the county advisor of the Derbyshire branch of the National Farmers' Union (NFU), and a part-time farmer. He lives at Shaw Wood farm in Edale with his wife Anita, in the same home as where he grew up. Andrew went to Edale school, Hope Valley college, Lady Manners sixth form in Bakewell, and then to Nottingham University where he studied Agricultural Science. He lost his father in 1986 so he took on the farm with his mother when he was 20 years old. He modernised the farm, expanded the dairy herd, and in 1992 took on looking after Grindslow House farm for the Noel family until he decided to step back from full-time farming in 2006. Since then he has been representing the farming industry and agriculture in Derbyshire, including his work for the NFU since 2012.ReferenceNFUKinder Beer Barrel RaceCorrectionAndrew said the old sheep pens on the bottom of the moor were on the west side, it was in fact the east side of Crowden.Recording dateThis interview was recorded in Edale on 30th November 2022.Host & ProductionHost & Editor - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureArt designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectSupported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.Contact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationShare your thoughts by tagging @about.the.adventure and @peakdistrictnationalpark on Instagram @ABTheAdventure and @peakdistrict on Twitter, with the hashtag #WildAboutKinder.

How do you feel when you’re walking on Kinder Scout? In this interview with photographer John Beatty he talks about how he interprets what he feels in a visual way. He shares the story behind his collaborative book with Ed Douglas: Kinder Scout - The People’s Mountain. You’ll also hear about his childhood memories of walking here, which parts of Kinder Scout he particularly appreciates, and why he thinks it’s much more than being a place. At the end John describes what makes him wild about Kinder Scout, closing with a beautiful quote. John Beatty is a nature, travel and adventure photographer. He has ventured across the world, returning with stories of his experiences of the wilderness which few have encountered. His books include The Pure Land: A Celebration of Wild Places, Sula: Seabird Hunters of Lewis, Wild Vision, and Kinder Scout - The People’s Mountain. He also publishes the annual Wild Nature Diary for the John Muir Trust. John lives in the Peak District where enjoys walking and cycling among his home moors.QuestionsWhat’s special about this bench that we’re sitting on?Is there a particular part of Kinder Scout that you think is really special?What about the seasons?What first brought you here?How did your photography come into it?As a photographer, how do you take photos of Kinder Scout and what you see here?What’s the story behind your collaborative book about Kinder Scout?Do you feel like you lose track of time when you're taking photographs?Do you think you would do another similar book about Kinder Scout?Why did you choose the title to be “The People’s Mountain”?How have you captured some of the wildlife on Kinder Scout?Are there any particular challenges that you’ve had to work through on Kinder Scout?Do you consider it a wild place?Is there one photo in your book that you think best represents your personal connection with this place?What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?ReferencesKinder Scout - The People’s MountainLinksJohn Beatty’s websiteRecording dateThis interview was recorded in Edale on 13th September 2022.Host & ProductionHost & Editor - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureArt designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectImagesArtwork photography provided by John Beatty.Supported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.Contact the hostYou can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions.Get involved with the conversationShare your thoughts by tagging @about.the.adventure and @peakdistrictnationalpark on Instagram @ABTheAdventure and

Do you look at Kinder Scout in awe, wondering how the landscape was formed? In this interview with Gemma Scougal, we explore some of the geological features and the stories behind them. You’ll also hear about her first impression of Kinder Scout, how her passion for the outdoors has developed, why she decided to qualify as a Hill and Moorland Leader, and how she communicates her scientific knowledge in an engaging way when leading groups. At the end she describes what makes her wild about Kinder Scout. While listening, you can experience atmospheric background sounds recorded from the area - headphones will be best for this.Gemma is a professional geologist who, after a geology field trip to Castleton as an undergraduate, was thrilled when she moved closer to the Peak. She never gets bored of coming to Kinder; it’s full of wonderful stories to tell through geological, natural and human history. In 2018 she founded her side-hustle, WildWays, as a way to share her passion and enthusiasm for the outdoors with others, providing guided walks and navigation skills in the Peak District and South Yorkshire designed for all abilities.  As well as earth sciences, she loves running, road cycling, climbing and hill walking. QuestionsHow can you best describe your personal connection with Kinder Scout?How do you feel when you spend time here?When did you first come here and what was that experience like?How has your appreciation and passion for the outdoors developed?Where do you think is a good place for people to start if they haven’t grown up being outdoors a lot?Why did you decide to do Hill and Moorland Leader training?Did you already have quite a good knowledge of map and compass skills before you started?Where did your interest in geology begin?Can you share a bit of Kinder Scout’s geological story?How do you explain to people how the landscape has formed and what people can see?Have the boulders fallen down from somewhere?Do you expect this landscape to change over time?Can you explain a little bit more about what’s meant by delta?What’s beneath our boots when we’re walking on paths?Do you still feel a sense of awe even though you’ve studied geology and worked in the area?Why is this area referred to as the "Dark Peak"? How does it contrast to the White Peak?How do you bring your interest in earth science into your work as a Hill and Moorland Leader?How do people usually respond when you lead them on walks here?How do you communicate your knowledge in an engaging way?What questions do people ask you? What are they most curious about?Why is this a location that you think is particularly special?What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?Recording dateThis interview was recorded on Kinder Scout on 29th April 2022.Host & ProductionHost - Sarah Lister, About The AdventureLead editor - Gabby Wolstenholme, The Northern ProjectCoediter and art designer - Alec Boyd, The Northern ProjectSupported by Peak District National ParkThis project is supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme.LinksWildWays website