When Julien Baker and Hanif first met, they felt pulled by the orbit of each other’s work—work that is emotionally layered and complex. This week on the show, Hanif and Julien catch up. Of course, they talk about Julien’s recent album release, Little Oblivions —which Hanif wrote the liner notes for— but they also get into ideas of self-redemption, digesting emotions through music, and missing the miraculous feeling of live music. Plus, Hanif and Julien collaborate on a playlist of their personal praise songs; the music they would play in their own respective churches. For the playlist of songs curated for this episode visit http://bit.ly/oos-julien

/ Show Notes /

Julien Baker’s new album is Little Oblivions. The songs that Julien Baker would play at her church are “The River” by Manchester Orchestra, “The Joke” by Brandi Carlile, and “Love Theory” by Kirk Franklin.

/ Music In This Week's Playlist /

Bloodshot , Julien Baker

The Joke, Brandi Carlile

When I Was Young, Tina Turner

Blown a Wish, My Bloody Valentine

How I Got Over, Aretha Franklin

Lived In Bars, Cat Power

The River, Manchester Orchestra

The Ocean Grew Hands to Hold Me, The Wonder Years

/ Credits /

Object of Sound is a Sonos show produced by work x work: Scott Newman, Jemma Rose Brown, and Babette Thomas. The show is additionally produced by Hanif Abdurraqib. Our engineers are Sam Bair and Josh Hahn of The Relic Room.