OKAY, FINE. This is technically the third edition of We Need to Talk, but it's the first one that MJO remembered to record. He's not only mad with himself, he's disappointed.

On this week's episode, MJO is joined by Jessica Ross from Smashtag Social, where we kick the can about how to grow the junior members of a marketing time. Plus, we dunk on the pointlessness of B2B awards, as well as the usual view from the mountaintop, and pub chatter about the stupid robot (who chooses to call itself ChatGPT for now).

Because when it comes to marketing, we have issues, and we need to talk.