There is power in truth and transparency. The truth is that we have all been raised under oppressive systems, so we all have both learning and unlearning to do.

The key to growth is fully accepting and recognizing that there is room for that growth to happen. Nurturing our expanding minds and hearts without feeding into the compulsion to judge or be “right” or “perfect” will produce the best results.

Join Rev. Dr. TLC and her guest Tracie Jae as they say “Yes to the Mess!" They will be delving into the importance of being willing to have messy conversations and accepting that there will be mistakes made on the journey.

Being willing to grow means giving yourself permission to dive into the deep end of all the resources at your disposal and preparing for revelations as you peel back the layers of your own privilege.

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Show Notes

Segment 1

Rev. Dr. TLC begins the show by introducing her guest, Traci Jae, who is also known as the “Quiet Rebel”. Traci Jae has started conversations to help change the status quo. She created 100 Voices, a guided conversation where women shared their personal cultural experiences.Traci Jae shares her go to practices for grounding herself. Silence is a way for Traci Jae to clear her mind and reset. She also mentions the Labyrinths Society where she currently serves as the region's representative. She shares that labyrinth is a way for her to meditate. Lastly, Traci Jae blows bubbles as a way to remember her breath and a way to watch the things that hinder her float away. Before the break, Traci Jae shares how she got the nickname “Quiet Rebel”. She connects the name to being an introvert and fighting against injustice. Rev. Dr. TLC and Traci Rae discuss ways to get involved and use your voice

Segment 2

Coming back from the break, Rev. Dr. TLC and Traci Rae discuss how Traci Rae curated 100 Voices. Traci Rae talks about her doubts in developing the event when it came close to the date and failed to reach her goal. Traci shared a moment she had while walking the labyrinth in her city three days before the event. She talks about a powerful message that made her realize she was concerned about the wrong thing. Before the break, Traci Rae discusses reaching her goal, the success of the event, and how it landed her an offer to repeat the project in Seattle.

Segment 3

Traci Jae lists honest, urgent, meaningful, and nuance as the meaning of h.u.m.a.n. They discuss what urgent means to Traci Jae. She defines urgency as something of personal importance. She clarifies that urgency doesn't have to equal abruptness. It’s an internal alert to take action. Before the break, Rev. Dr. TLC and Traci Jae talk about the meaning of nuance, the concept of centering one's lived experience. They talked about the hierarchy of despair, putting personal pain above others.

Segment 4

In the last segment, Traci Rae explains her acronym for love. She says Listen, Observe your own biases, Venture into unfamiliar territory, and Expect the best. Traci Rae believes following those guides can help for a healthy conversation; no matter the subject. Rev. Dr. TLC asks Traci Jae how she gets people to acknowledge their own biases. Traci Jae says noticing when something makes internal bells go off; maybe there's a bias to be addressed. Rev. Dr. TLC and Traci Jae discuss Traci Jae’s project, Liberation: Freeing ourselves from racism and patriarchy, with friend and co-creator Monica Chilson. It is a six week program that begins January 13th, 2022. At the end of the segment, Traci Jae left us with a blessing. “Thank you & Amen”.