110 - Lowell Macgregor and the Taylor Made Retreat

Church & Other Drugs

04-02-2019 • 1 hr 6 mins

Greetings, congregation! John joins the show after a long break to talk about the super bowl and whether or not humanity is on the brink of destruction. They also discuss our brother podcast Dopey being on a recent episode of This American Life and how it reminds Jed of what's going on in his personal life. Then, Jed talks to Lowell Macgregor from the Taylor Made Retreat. Lowell tells his story of debauchery to sobriety, how he moved from setting fires as a 14 year old to running a spiritual retreat with 29 years sober. Lowell hit some low points in his sobriety as well, and the two have a sobering discussion about that. taylormaderetreat.org churchandotherdrugs@gmail.com patreon.com/churchandotherdrugs