A chat with John Nazareth, who traces his roots to Moira, Uganda, Malaya and is now based in Canada (Mississauga). We talk about the clan-system in Goa (vangods) and also estimating the number of Goans scattered across the globe. John is a statistician by training. He work on quality assurance for Bombardier, the Canadian plane company. He has been keenly involved with Goan life for many decades, and in an accelerated way after the mid 1990s, when the Net connected Goa with its Daizpora. Read John Nazareth's paper on the Goan clans here: https://archive.org/details/clan-system-in-the-goan-village-20220502-rev-1Recorded by Frederick Noronha (FN).