The Mind Tools L&D Podcast

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The Mind Tools L&D Podcast is a must-listen for anyone involved in Learning and Development or Human Resources. The weekly show features regular appearances from the Mind Tools team plus special guests to get right to the heart of issues affecting the L&D and HR communities. From learning needs analysis and evidence-based practice through to the impact of technology on work and hot topics at industry conferences, you'll get critical insights into the world of work, performance and learning. read less
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424 — Why emotions make simulations so powerful
2d ago
424 — Why emotions make simulations so powerful
When your team are faced with a crisis, you want them to be prepared. But how do you build those capabilities when crises are rare, and you hope they never occur? In this week’s episode of The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross G and Owen explore the use of simulations to build capability. We’re joined by Chris Peschanel, who ran crisis management at Bayer Pharmaceuticals for 12 years, and by Phil Willcox from St8 of Play. We discuss: ·       why simulations are the best approach for developing real-world skills in crisis management ·       the role that emotions play in making these learning experiences memorable ·       what a simulation sounds like in practice and how to create your own. You can find out more about simulations from St8 of Play. In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Owen shared how GiveDirectly increase donations. Ross discussed Trung Phan’s newsletter on Duolingo’s priorities. Phil discussed the paper: Chang, C. C., & Yang, S. T. (2024). Learners’ positive and negative emotion, various cognitive processing, and cognitive effectiveness and efficiency in situated task-centered digital game-based learning with different scaffolds. Interactive Learning Environments, 32(9), 5058-5077. For more from us, including details of our new Manager Skill Builder, visit mindtools.com. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.   Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Ross Garner ·       Owen Ferguson ·       Phil Willcox ·       Chris Peschanel
423 — Embracing change by 'unlearning' (Rebroadcast)
03-12-2024
423 — Embracing change by 'unlearning' (Rebroadcast)
Hello listeners! No new episode this week, but we wanted to revisit this 2018 classic with Dom Price, from Atlassian. It'll help you think about whether the habits and behaviors that have helped you navigate the world to this point, are still useful today. Regular show notes below. --- In the early stages of our careers we learn how to do our jobs, manage office politics and earn promotion. But those habits and behaviours that initially help us advance can become a burden. We end up in meetings because it used to be important to show face, and not because they're an effective use of our time. In this week's GoodPractice Podcast, Ross G and Owen speak to Dom Price, Futurist at software developer Atlassian, about his approach to 'unlearning' habits and behaviours. If you'd like to share your thoughts on the show, you can find us all on LinkedIn. The Atlassian Team Playbook is available at: https://www.atlassian.com/team-playbook For a fun insight into how Atlassian team members speak to one another, see: https://www.atlassian.com/blog/inside-atlassian/teamwork-data-visualization Owen's 'What I Unlearned This Week' covered Johann Hari's Guardian piece on depression. The original article is here: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/07/is-everything-you-think-you-know-about-depression-wrong-johann-hari-lost-connections  And, for balance, the counter argument is here: https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2018/jan/08/is-everything-johann-hari-knows-about-depression-wrong-lost-connections   For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtoolsbusiness.com. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work
421 — Good managers balance care with results
19-11-2024
421 — Good managers balance care with results
How can we help managers demonstrate care for their teams, while maintaining high standards of accountability and performance? In this week's episode of The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross G and Dr Anna Barnett are joined by Joris Merks-Benjaminsen, Managing Without Power, to discuss: why nice managers can still provide mediocre managementhow managers can balance care for their teams with high levels of performanceand how to build better managers. For more from Joris, visit managingwithoutpower.com The paper Anna discussed, on 'nondecision-making', was: Bachrach, P., & Baratz, M. S. (1963). Decisions and nondecisions: An analytical framework. American political science review, 57(3), 632-642. Google's research into great managers (Project Oxygen) and effective teams (Project Aristotle) is available online. During the discussion, Joris referenced the prisoner's dilemma. We also discussed findings from our report, 'Building Better Managers'. In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Anna recommended Those People Next Door by Kia Abdullah. Joris discussed Sinterklaas. Ross G discussed 'sovereign AI'. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work. And our new Manager Skills Assessment. You can also email custom@mindtools.com and Ross G will get back to you. Connect with our speakers If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: Ross GarnerDr Anna BarnettJoris Merks-Benjaminsen
417 — Can L&D be the new R&D?
22-10-2024
417 — Can L&D be the new R&D?
If you work in learning and development, you probably get some direction from your senior leadership team about what to focus on and how much to spend. But, once you get into the details, you have lots of room to play. In this week’s episode of The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Chief Learning Officer Marc Steven Ramos joins Ross Garner and Ross Dickie to discuss: ·       the strengths and weaknesses of different genAI tools ·       whether tools like ChatGPT are living up to the hype ·       how L&D can start experimenting, and why it’s the ideal team to do so! Marc discussed these ideas in more detail on his Substack and in his article for Harvard Business Review (with Marc Zao-Sanders). In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Ross G recommended a warning on ‘pokies’ from The Guardian. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.   Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.  Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Ross Garner ·       Ross Dickie ·       Marc Steven Ramos
416 — Book Club: Power to the Middle
15-10-2024
416 — Book Club: Power to the Middle
In Power to the Middle, McKinsey consultants Bill Schaninger, Bryan Hancock and Emily Field argue that the ‘middle manager’ is key to organizational success. Long maligned (often by McKinsey), the manager is in fact responsible for delivering objectives, addressing underperformance, building trusting relationships, and resolving team conflicts. In this week’s episode of The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross Garner, Ross Dick and Nahdia Khan discuss: ·       why managers are so important ·       the role of ‘manager’ vs ‘individual contributor’ ·       how to develop better managers The book, Power to the Middle, is available now. Our report, ‘Building Better Managers’, is also available now. In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Ross D recommended the podcast series Slow Burn. Nahdia discussed cloud seeding. Ross Garner discussed the paintings of John Atkinson Grimshaw, via @CulturalTutor. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.   Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.  Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Ross Garner ·       Ross Dickie ·       Nahdia Khan
414 – The Learning and Development Handbook Returns: Part 2 - Requiem
01-10-2024
414 – The Learning and Development Handbook Returns: Part 2 - Requiem
It’s been three years since the first edition of The Learning and Development Handbook by Michelle Parry-Slater was published. In that time, a global pandemic, rise of AI, and shift to remote working, have transformed how we work. This week on The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Michelle returns to the show to discuss the second edition of her book with Ross G. We discuss: what has changed (and what hasn’t) since the first edition was publishedthe evolving role of the modern learning professionalwhether it’s still possible to keep up with the rate of change. During the discussion, Ross referenced Amazon’s decision to tell staff to go back to the office five days a week. He also discussed the paper: Albarracín, D., Fayaz-Farkhad, B., & Granados Samayoa, J. A. (2024). Determinants of behaviour and their efficacy as targets of behavioural change interventions. Nature Reviews Psychology, 1-16. To find out more about Michelle, visit kairosmodernlearning.com For the book, check out thelndhandbook.com Quite note: Apologies for the slightly dodgy audio on this episode. After 400+ episodes, Ross G can still pick the wrong microphone to record. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.   Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.  Connect with our speakers If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: Ross GarnerMichelle Parry-Slater
413 — Your questions answered (Part 2)
24-09-2024
413 — Your questions answered (Part 2)
This week on The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross Garner and Ross Dickie are re-visiting their L&D mailbag to answer your questions.   We discuss:  What is L&D actually doing well with Large Language Models? (via Gill Chester)  What’s the top 3 least likely L&D jobs to be replaced by AI? (via Alan Hiddleston)  How can learning teams partner better with the rest of the org? (via Sarah Danzl)  What has been the most popular content on MindTools this year, and why...? (via Adam Lacey)  What lessons from Centauri's Shadow can L&D professionals take forward into the autumn to boost their skills? (via Matthew Batten)  During the AI discussion, Ross Dickie recommended Ross Stevenson’s Steal These Thoughts newsletter, and Philippa Hardman’s Dr Phil’s Newsletter.  Ross G referenced The Rest is Politics’s interview with Audrey Tang.  Ross Ganer also recommended our previous episode with Natal Dank, ‘Agile L&D puts the “human” into “Human Resources”’, and his own newsletter on the many benefits of text content.  Finally, Ross Dickie recommended Bob Mortimer’s The Satsuma Complex.  And Ross Garner grudgingly referenced his own debut novel, Centauri’s Shadow, available now from Amazon UK and Amazon US.  For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.    Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.   Connect with our speakers     If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn:  Ross Garner  Ross Dickie
412 — Three research papers with Jane Bozarth (Rebroadcast)
17-09-2024
412 — Three research papers with Jane Bozarth (Rebroadcast)
Hey listeners! No new episode this week, but we wanted to revisit this 2022 classic with Jane Bozarth because we thought it paired nicely with the latest edition of our L&D Dispatch newsletter. Do check out the newsletter Ross G discussed on our L&D Dispatch page, 'Four papers that will make you laugh (then make you think)'. Regular show notes below. --- In learning science, there are certain ideas that have leapt the fences of academia and seeped into the public consciousness. Often, these ideas gain traction because they feel intuitively true. But what does the data say? And how should we apply these ideas as learning professionals?  This week on The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross Garner and Ross Dickie are joined by Jane Bozarth, Director of Research for the Learning Guild, to discuss three research papers that challenge the received wisdom. We cover:  Generational difference Learning styles  The “Marshmallow Test”.  The three papers we discussed were: 'Generational Differences in Work-Related Attitudes: A Meta-analysis', published in 2012 in the Journal of Business and Psychology.  'Another Nail in the Coffin for Learning Styles? Disparities among Undergraduate Anatomy Students’ Study Strategies, Class Performance, and Reported VARK Learning Styles', published in 2018 in Anatomical Sciences Education.  'Revisiting the Marshmallow Test: A Conceptual Replication Investigating Links Between Early Delay of Gratification and Later Outcomes', published in Psychological Science in 2018.  The Atlantic did a good write-up of the controversy surrounding the 'Marshmallow Experiment'. See here: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/marshmallow-test/561779/  In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Ross Garner mentioned a Twitter thread from Aaron Berman, in which he shares writing tips from his time as editor of the US President’s daily brief: https://twitter.com/aarondberman/status/1541576231891525633?s=21&t=1_oHB0tqjbt4VXZXmTMnXQ  Jane spoke about Kate the Chemist’s recent session at DevLearn. To find out more about Kate, visit her website: https://www.katethechemist.com/  Ross Dickie recommended the technology podcast ‘Hard Fork’ from the New York Times. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts, or through the NYT website: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/podcasts/hard-fork-technology.html  To find out more about Jane’s work at the Learning Guild, see: https://www.learningguild.com/  For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtoolsbusiness.com. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.     Connect with our speakers     If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with our speakers on Twitter:      Ross Garner - @RossGarnerMT  Ross Dickie - @RossDickieMT  Dr Jane Bozarth - @JaneBozarth
410 — Agile L&D puts the ‘human’ into ‘Human Resources’
03-09-2024
410 — Agile L&D puts the ‘human’ into ‘Human Resources’
This week on The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, we're putting the ‘people’ back into People Development and the ‘human’ back into ‘Human Resources, as we explore Natal Dank's book Agile L&D.   Natal is the co-owner and director of PXO Culture, a consultancy firm on a mission to make HR, culture and change about humans.  And her book, Agile L&D, is a follow-up to Agile HR.   We discuss:  Problems with a ‘traditional’ approach to L&D  Tools and methods for prioritizing and organizing workloads  Whether ‘agile’ has just become another corporate buzzword  To find out more about Natal, and the book, visit pxoculture.com  During the discussion, Natal referenced the books The Build Trap by Melissa Perri and Embracing Uncertainty by Margaret Heffernan.  For more on Taylorism, see ‘scientific management’.  In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Ross Garner discussed Yuval Noah Harari’s bleak take on the future of AI and government.  Nahdia discussed digital twins.  Natal discussed Meditations for Mortals.  For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.    Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.   Connect with our speakers     If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn:  Ross Garner  Nahdia Khan  Natal Dank
409 — Communication skills for geeks
27-08-2024
409 — Communication skills for geeks
Technical professionals have a high level of expertise, but translating that expertise for non-technical colleagues isn’t always straightforward. Whether you’re an engineer, a researcher, or even an L&D professional, how can you communicate in a way that resonates with your audience?  This week on the Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross D and Owen are joined by Neil Thompson, founder of Teach The Geek, to discuss:   why good communication skills are important for technical professionals;  the specific challenges associated with technical communication;  how L&D can support technical professionals to become better communicators.  To find out more about Neil’s work, visit www.teachthegeek.com  The very geeky meta-meta-analysis that Owen mentioned in ‘What I Learned This Week’ can be found at: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41746-024-01172-y  You can read the Verge article that Ross D referenced at: https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/18/24223160/waymo-honking-san-francisco-parking-lot-depot-fix-not-working  For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.    Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.   Connect with our speakers     If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn:  Ross Dickie  Owen Ferguson  Neil Thompson
408 — Early careers: What if we teach them and they leave?
20-08-2024
408 — Early careers: What if we teach them and they leave?
This week we’re revisiting an old adage: The employer who says, ‘What if we train our people and they leave?’ And the trainer who says, ‘What if we don't and they stay?’ As Talent Development Manager for Kew Green Hotels, Clare Sheppard knows all about this. She’s responsible for helping those who want to stay progress in their careers, while giving those who leave a great experience that they can carry with them into their next role. We discuss: ·       the types of colleague who fall into the ‘Early Careers’ bucket (it’s broader than you might think!) ·       how to identify high potential colleagues ·       the role of managers in supporting Early Careers professionals. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.   Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.  In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Clare discussed the likelihood of it raining, and what that means. Ross recommended (sort of) an old episode of The Magic Roundabout. Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Ross Garner ·       Clare Sheppard
407 — Revisiting 70:20:10: From learning to performance
13-08-2024
407 — Revisiting 70:20:10: From learning to performance
Last week on The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Ross G and Owen explored how the 70:20:10 model is being applied by three L&D Practitioners: Ceri Sharples, Cath Addis, and Carl Akintola-Davis. Today, we wanted to follow up on some of the challenges posed during that discussion with The 70:20:10 Institute’s Charles Jennings. What does it really mean to 'integrate learning into the workflow', and how does 70:20:10 move us towards a performance focus? We discuss: ·       Where the numbers ‘70’, ‘20’ and ‘10’ come from ·       How a focus on ‘learning’ tends to lead to a ‘10+’ approach ·       Examples of interventions that have focused on supporting performance, rather than formal learning. For more on the origins of 70:20:10, see this blog post from Charles. See also The Center for Creative Leadership’s chapter ‘Learning Through Experience’. Mind Tools offers a summary of Informal Learning, by Jay Cross. Joseph Stiglitz book is Creating a Learning Culture. Find out more about Dr Edwards Deming. For more from Charles and his team, see 702010institute.com. The case study Charles wrote with Brian Murphy from Citi bank was: ‘From Courses to Campaigns: Citi’s Journey to a Culture of Continuous Learning’. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.   Or become a member to support our show! Visit mindtools.com and use the offer code PODCAST15 for 15% off an individual subscription. This offer is for new subscribers only and can’t be used with any other offer.  In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Owen recommended (again) Lenny’s Newsletter, in particular a recent edition on pricing for AI features. Ross discussed a post from Ben Evans on how users are interacting with ChatGPT. Charles recommended the podcast The Infinite Monkey Cage. Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Ross Garner ·       Owen Ferguson ·       Charles Jennings
406 — Revisiting 70:20:10: Theory into practice
06-08-2024
406 — Revisiting 70:20:10: Theory into practice
Depending how you count it, 70:20:10 is almost 40 years old. The model provides a high-level outline of how we learn at work: 10% through formal learning, 20% through working with others, 70% through doing the work. The numbers get criticised, but this insight is widely accepted: Most of what we learn does not come from formal training. But how then should L&D practitioners apply the model to the work that they do? Is it still a useful concept after all this time? In the first of this two-part series, Ross Garner and Owen explore these questions with three practitioners: Ceri Sharples, Learning and Development manager at Somerset Bridge Group; Cath Addis, L&D manager at Ascential; and return guest Carl Akintola-Davis, Head of Leadership Development at Phoenix Group. We discuss: ·       The history and criticisms of 70:20:10 ·       How useful the concept is for discussing workplace learning with stakeholders ·       How to think about the ‘70’, the ‘20’, and the ‘10’ when designing learning programs. For more on the origins of 70:20:10, see this blog post from Charles Jennings of The 702010 Institute, who is joining us next week on the show. Carl’s acronym for workplace learning was ‘Performance RECIPES: Reflection, Experimentation, Connection, Information, Practice, Environment and Support’. In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Owen discussed a new paper from Nature, which didn’t really impress him: Bloom, N., Han, R., & Liang, J. (2024). Hybrid working from home improves retention without damaging performance. Nature, 1-6. Ross learned the unfortunate fate of 440 squirrels. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.  Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Ross Garner ·       Owen Ferguson ·       Ceri Sharples ·       Cath Addis ·       Carl Akintola-Davis
405 — What’s in your book bag this summer?
30-07-2024
405 — What’s in your book bag this summer?
A summer holiday holds the potential for distraction-free reading. With that in mind, in this week’s episode our podcast team suggest books that hold lessons for L&D practitioners. Which might you take on holiday this summer? Book list Right Kind of Wrong. Why Learning to Fail Can Teach Us to Thrive (2023) by Amy Edmondson www.amazon.co.uk/Right-Kind-Wrong-Learning-Thrive Counter-Intelligence: What the secret world can teach us about problem-solving and creativity (2024) by Robert Hannigan https://www.roberthannigan.com/ The Tyranny of Metrics (2018) by Jerry J. Muller www.amazon.co.uk/Tyranny-Metrics-Jerry-Z-Muller How big things get done. The surprising factors behind every successful project (2023) by Brent Flyberg and Dan Gardner www.amazon.co.uk/How-Big-Things-Get-Done A history of the world in twelve shipwrecks (2024) by David Gibbons www.amazon.co.uk/History-World-Twelve-Shipwrecks Performance-focused learner surveys (2022) by Will Thalheimer www.amazon.co.uk/Performance-Focused-Learner-Surveys-Distinctive-Effectiveness   In ‘What I Learned This Week’, Nahdia spoke about how former PM Harold Wilson funded his Alzheimer’s care www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/23/former-pm-harold-wilson-sold-private-papers-fund-care-alzheimers   Ross Dickie also mentioned the traditional Greek bagpipe, known as the ‘tsampouna’, which he discovered during a recent holiday on Santorini. For more from us, including access to our back catalogue of podcasts, visit mindtools.com/business. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning performance support toolkit, our off-the-shelf e-learning, and our custom work.  Connect with our speakers    If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: ·       Nahdia Khan ·       Owen Ferguson ·       Ross Dickie