This episode is sponsored by Curated Connections - a simple and powerful matchmaking tool to make communities more connected. --- Logan Kilpatrick is the first Developer Relations hire at OpenAI - the company behind the revolutionary product ChatGPT. He has been responsible for working with the product teams on new launches, creating and maintaining developer documentation, running the developer forum, hackathons, events and managing the ChatGPT plugin store. In this episode, he discusses what his role at OpenAI looks like, how he went from being a Machine Learning engineer at Apple to Developer Relations Advocate at OpenAI and his tips for people looking to transition to a career of developer relations: Will developers become obsolete due to ChatGPT?Deep-dive into the Dev Rel work at OpenAIHow Logan uses ChatGPT at workDev Rel or Software Development? How to choose?Logan's transition from an ML Engineer to a Dev Rel AdvocateDoing unpaid volunteer work to get his first breakDealing with rejectionsGet an unfair advantage by creating a public verifiable track recordWhat's next for Logan?Logan's #1 resource? Jono BaconWho he learns from on Twitter1 action item for you - the listener

Chris Samila is the co-founder of Partnership Leaders - a strong bootstrapped business that provides community, connections and resources for partnership professionals. This episode is supported by Curated Connections (https://curatedconnections.io/) - a simple matchmaking tool with an easy-to-justify pricing. In this episode we discuss: Organising conferences and city-wide events with a volunteer-led strategyWhat does a partnership professional do?How Partnership Leaders (PL) charges their membersCreating resources that create a strong hookWhy they use a paid Slack to host the communityHow he turned an email thread into a communityBuilding culture in the early daysCharging for a free communityReducing churnTech stack for running the PL businessChris' hiring philosophy

This episode is supported by Curated Connections (https://curatedconnections.io/) - a simple matchmaking tool with an easy-to-justify pricing. --- Nikki Thibodeau is the Senior Manager of Community and Customer Advocacy at Calix. She is also the founder of The Community Community - where she is building a safe space for senior community professionals to grow, together. Previously she has worked in various roles, rising through the ranks of the community team at Shopify. In this episode, we discuss: Nikki’s “unidentified superpower”Community Manager work vs. Community Lead workStarting The Community Community150+ applications on community launch! How?Making a community valuable without making it busyDream Team and Co-leadSomeone got her dream role over her at ShopifyGoing to Harvard and being the top candidateTips for job seekersAsking for a higher salaryMost recommended resources Resources: Curated Connections - https://curatedconnections.io/Nikki’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki2987/The Community Community - https://thecommunitycommunity.com/CMX Masterclass - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUC9Vz9R3tpJwpRgHMyH_PASlVDNw3_DBCommon Room Blog - https://www.commonroom.io/resources/Jenny Weigle - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyweigle/Venia Logan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthavlogan/

Jessica is the Head of Community and Events at Hampton - a private and highly vetted community for founders and CEOs started by Sam Parr. She has more than 7 years of experience building communities of startup founders at venture funds and startup accelerators. This episode is supported by Curated Connections (https://curatedconnections.io/) - a simple matchmaking tool for communities with an easy to justify pricing! In this episode - 00:00 Teaser 01:28 From Teacher to a Community Professional 08:17 Managing digital and in-person experiences at a community of founders as someone who is not herself a founder 22:08 Routine Roulette 27:43 Landing a role that was never posted 31:52 When community is the business and not just a bonus 39:55 Why women should not be concerned they won't be taken seriously if they are nice and gracious 43:29 Advice for job seekers 50:10 Two books that inspire her work 54:50 Action item for the listener --- --- --- Links and Resources: Curated Connections - https://curatedconnections.io/ Jessica's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-spivack-lowenstein-52b2a962/ Hampton - https://joinhampton.com/ Grand Central Tech - https://www.companyventures.co/grand-central-tech Community Club - https://www.community.club/ Community Hacked - https://www.communityhacked.com/ The Vendry - https://thevendry.com/ The Art of Gathering - https://www.priyaparker.com/book-art-of-gathering Unreasonable Hospitality - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60018618-unreasonable-hospitality --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to http://beginnermaps.com/ to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Madi Pignetti is the Head of Community at Contra - a commission-free freelancer marketplace. But she was a software developer before this. In this episode she shares how she made the pivot and what her work today looks like. Show notes: 00:00 Teaser 01:50 What is her work as the Head of Community at Contra 07:30 Measuring the contribution of community towards the Contra business 12:43 Personalities more suited for a community manager role 17:19 How experience as a developer makes her more empathetic in her current role 25:30 Routine roulette 29:40 How she stayed optimistic after quitting her full time developer role and not knowing what to do next 37:00 From an ambassador to landing a full time role at Contra 46:09 Resources for people getting into community 49:48 One action item to get the ball rolling --- --- --- Links and Resources: Madi's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/madi-pignetti/ Contra - https://contra.com/?userType=independent Building Brand Communities - https://amzn.eu/d/dblwmNS The Art of Gathering - https://www.priyaparker.com/book-art-of-gathering SuperHi - https://www.superhi.com/ Community Club - https://www.community.club/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to http://beginnermaps.com/ to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Amanda has been led by what she found interesting throughout her career. So she completed a 6-month coding bootcamp last year, after having spent 20 years in events and marketing. In a recent career pivot, she joined the Rails Foundation - a non-profit dedicated to supporting the Ruby on Rails ecosystem, as the Executive Director. What is Ruby on Rails? It is a web development framework that has been used to create tools like Shopify, GitHub, Basecamp, Twitch, Airbnb, Twitter and thousands of other apps that millions of people use every day. In this episode, we talk about her journey and how she got here - 00:00 Teaser 02:01 Rails Foundation: what and why 07:41 What does the executive director of a non-profit do? 14:43 Difference between working for a non-profit vs a for-profit 21:27 How a curiosity to learn a new thing got Amanda the role of Executive Director at Rails Foundation 25:51 Routine roulette: A typical week for Amanda 31:40 Big things about producing an in-person event 35:38 Getting speakers for an event 37:37 Making networking in events easy 39:05 How Amanda got into events 41:23 What not to do when organising a conference 43:22 Key to generating serendipity in your career 48:37 Advice for people building a community for developers 51:44 Applying for 10 jobs vs focussing on that 1 job you really want 55:14 One action item for listeners --- --- --- Links and Resources: Amanda's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandabrookeperino/ Rails Foundation - https://rubyonrails.org/foundation --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Marcie Walker is the Head of Community Engagement at Gatheround - a startup building a fun, new online events platform that makes virtual events actually fun. In this episode, Marcie shares all the lessons she has learnt in building herself a career in community building. Some things we talk about: 00:00 Teaser04:50 How work in community is dependent more on what the community needs rather than your title13:32 Virtual vs In-person events16:59 What Marcie is working on now23:21 How flywheel marketing can justify RoI on your community efforts28:50 Routine Roulette33:11 Getting the job at Gatheround by writing her own job description46:08 Advice for 20 year olds01:04:58 Resources for community building01:06:50 One action item for listeners --- --- --- Links and Resources: Gatheround - https://gatheround.com/community Community Club - https://www.community.club/ Noele Flowers - https://www.linkedin.com/in/noeleflowers/ Sarah Greisdorf - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahgreisdorf/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Jenny Weigle is a strategic consultant who has worked with some well-name brands like Airbnb, Google, Sephora, Visa and many many more such household names - and helped them build their online communities. She has been building communities for more than 10 yrs and has helped more than 100 brands in this time. So, if you are a consultant or someone who wants to become a consultant, Jenny is a perfect role model. In this episode we discuss: 00:00 The highs and lows of building your consulting business with Jenny 02:44 Discovering a natural community builder instinct 09:47 What does she do as a community strategist 13:48 FAQs about life as a community consultant 15:28 Highs and lows that come with your own consulting business 19:27 Routine Roulette 24:08 Doing a social media marketing internship in 2007 29:12 Lessons learnt form a failed attempt at consulting 32:14 Social media management Vs Community management 39:54 Starting a consulting business for the 2nd time 47:30 Getting clients and marketing 59:06 Working through the imposter syndrome --- --- --- Links and Resources: Jenny’s website - https://www.jenny.community/ Momentum Consulting Course - https://www.consultingsuccess.com/momentum-consulting-course Community Consultants Collective - https://www.communityconsultants.life/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Ben Lang is the Head of Community at Notion. He attributes almost all of the opportunities that have come his way to the side projects he has built out of passion. Believe it or not, The International Hummus Day is his creation. And so, in this episode we talk about: 00:00 Teaser 01:43 Power of side projects to open up opportunities 16:42 Decentralised approach towards the Notion community and why it may not be the best approach for others 22:24 Community building lessons learnt at Notion 28:57 How to start with angel investing --- --- --- Links and Resources: Ben Lang - https://benlang.me/ International Hummus Day - https://hummusday.com/ Giving away your legos - https://review.firstround.com/give-away-your-legos-and-other-commandments-for-scaling-startups The All-In Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/2IqXAVFR4e0Bmyjsdc8QzF?si=b3996ae0fcc44f27 How I Built This - https://open.spotify.com/show/6E709HRH7XaiZrMfgtNCun?si=6bdf9240fa424495 The Knowledge Project - https://open.spotify.com/show/1VyK52NSZHaDKeMJzT4TSM?si=a23837c2373d4105 The Tim Ferriss Show - https://tim.blog/podcast/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Casie Tennin is a Community Builder and a Certified Life Coach. As a Community Builder, she has built communities for fast-growing startups like Masterclass and TaskHuman. As a Professional Life Coach, she helps individuals make scary pivots in their professional and personal lives. “We spend so much of our lives not being in touch and in tune to what our heart wants, but to what society tells us to do,” says Casie. So we asked her how to not spend our lives that way. And she give us an action item. Don’t forget to grab it at the end of the episode. In this episode we also talk about: 00:00 How to build a career that makes your heart sing with Casie 03:42 Doing what makes your heart sing 13:24 What is coaching and how can it help you in your career 22:56 A teacher in Spain to CMGR at Masterclass 32:38 Networking with leaders at your dream company 39:08 Tactic for connecting the dots from your past 43:01 Is there even a need to go to college? 47:24 Dealing with being laid off and still deciding to be a digital nomad 53:35 A three-part strategy to make your job application stand out 57:48 Active listening 01:03:38 Top 3 resources to break into the community industry 01:07:09 One action item for the listener to break into their dream role --- --- --- Links and Resources: A Wandering Casiedilla - https://awanderingcasiedilla.com/ Coaching With Casie (web) - https://www.coachingwithcasie.com/ Coaching With Casie (mail) - coachingwithcasie@gmail.com Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss - https://amzn.eu/d/1wOM305 Buzzing Communities by Richard Millington - https://amzn.eu/d/gJh7NKb CMX - https://cmxhub.com/ Otta - https://otta.com/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Rahul Desai is the General Manager of the Chief of Staff Network - a community membership for Chiefs of Staff to network and learn from their peers in the industry. He the person responsible for making this business profitable while delivering a great member experience. In the 6 months he has been in this role, he has already lead the team to take the conversion rate of interested applicants from 30% to 80%. So if you are managing, building or planning to build a community membership business, you should continue listening. We talk about - 00:00 Teaser 03:12 A peer support group for Chiefs of Staff 10:35 4-tiers of spend on communities 14:47 Getting member close rate from 30% of interested applicants to 80% 21:44 Nailing sales interviews by being process oriented 28:39 Need for laser focus as General Manager @ Chief of Staff Network 37:04 Routine Roulette 44:27 Selling Upslope as a solo-founder to get to his current job 52:28 How Rahul thrives as an introvert 56:03 Servant leadership 01:01:46 Building out the generalist side 01:06:19 Advice for 20 yo --- --- --- Links and Resources: Chief of Staff Network - http://chiefofstaff.network/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=beginnermaps Wayback Machine - https://web.archive.org/ Amp It Up - https://ampitupbook.com/ Stolen Focus - https://stolenfocusbook.com/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hour every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

If you have wondered about a career in community operations, this episode should help you understand what it is, how Tiffany broke into it and how you can too. Tiffany Oda is the COO of Talkbase - a young startup that is building the community CRM for startups. In this episode we talk about: 00:00 Dealing with community layoffs, Community Operations 101 with Tiffany Oda 06:49 Dealing with layoffs 18:44 What Tiffany is up to at different times of the week 25:18 What is Community Ops 39:12 Quickest way into Community Ops 46:13 Learning resources for Community ops 53:44 What should a 20-yr old with no experience do 57:46 Getting a mentor who is invested in you 01:01:29 Building your personal brand --- --- --- Links and Resources: The CommOps Gal (Tiffany’s Blog) - http://www.thecommopsgal.com/Community OPServations - https://tiffeoda.wixsite.com/commopsgal/community-opservationsTalkbase (Community CRM for startups) - https://talkbase.io/Community Club - https://www.community.club/CMX Community - https://cmxhub.com/community/Talkbase Friends - https://talkbase.io/communityCassie Mayes - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassiemayes/Jamie Langskov - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamielangskov/Andrew Claremont - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andymci/Erica Kuhl - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericakuhl/Brian Oblinger - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianoblinger/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Murtaza Bambot is the cofounder and CEO of Heartbeat - an awesome platform for building online communities. It combines the powers of Slack, Notion, Luma, Meetsy, Zoom and other platforms that community builders often need to stitch to get a functioning community. In this episode we talk about: 00:00 How Murtaza keeps it together when times are difficult 03:40 Favourite communities on Heartbeat 09:34 Heartbeat's community Hearth - how it started and how it helps them 19:47 How Murtaza thinks about hiring as an early stage founder 28:11 Day to day work as co-founder at Heartbeat 36:24 How Murtaza learnt to code even after failing coding classes in college 39:46 Why Murtaza quit building to focus on selling 43:55 How to nail down sales as an introvert 49:53 Homeless but keeping it all together by being mission oriented 58:54 Building your (interconnected) network 01:05:29 Doubling down on what works --- --- --- Links and Resources: Heartbeat - https://www.heartbeat.chat/TOGKnowledge - https://www.joeedelman.com/togknowledge-communityThe Cat and Dog Coexistence Club - https://www.praiseworthypets.com/Founding Sales - https://www.foundingsales.com/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Jakob is the cofounder and CEO of Butter - a startup that is bravely going against the video conferencing incumbents like Zoom and Google Meet by building a fun, interactive and delightful video conferencing tool. In this episode: 00:00 Looking at salary as points in the game of life does not make sense 01:50 How Jakob's career plan did not work out 08:35 Risk and reward early in your career 14:21 The fundamental step/skill to build a product-based startup 19:21 Deciding when to shut shop 26:43 Camaraderie with Co-founders: Building 2 companies without ever being in the same room 29:57 Why is Jakob all in on Butter 42:14 Product-led vs Community-led 45:57 What a founder values in an employee --- --- ---  Links and Resources:   Butter - https://www.butter.us/ The Mom Test - https://www.momtestbook.com/ Startup School - https://www.startupschool.org/ --- --- ---  Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Ben Regier’s career is unique. Previously, he has served in the US Marine Corps and has been a store manager at Starbucks. Now, he is pioneering community-led sales as the Community Development Representative at Commsor. In this episode we talk about -  00:00 The client that will buy only from Ben 09:17 One thing you absolutely need to do in a community-led sales role 11:56 How to handle NOs 15:15 Most difficult part of his job 16:53 Lessons carried over from service in the US Marine Corps 24:27 Hard lessons learnt as a Starbucks Store Manager 28:19 Getting his first remote job 41:24 Future of community-led sales 48:48 What veterans need to know about entering the sales 53:45 Rapid fire round   --- --- ---  Links and Resources:   Ben’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/benregier/ --- --- ---  Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Sophia Haq is the founder and CEO at Muslim Women Professionals (abbreviated MWP) - a non-profit that promotes the empowerment of Muslim women globally. Here, she is building a community where diverse women can embrace their Muslim identity and build professional skills through mentorship, networking, and guidance. That's not all. She's also the Senior Program Manager at XRC Labs - venture capital firm and accelerator. Here she builds curriculum, spearheads community development, maintains relationships with the portfolio companies, and many other things. So, you can see how Sophia lives and breathes community. We talk about: 00:00 How Sofia's childhood experiences affect her knack for community building08:16 Running a Non-profit vs Running a For-profit13:38 What gets her going when work gets exhausting25:58 How do you start a non-profit27:43 Getting a role at XRC by abandoning 10-year plan35:27 How to get mentors when you have nothing to give in return39:59 Day-to-day job as Senior Program Manager @ XRC43:31 Biggest challenge working at XRC53:09 Rapid fire round --- --- --- Links and Resources: Sofia’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sofiahaq/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Derrick is the community manager at Thrive TRM. He pivoted into the community industry in 2022 after 11 YEARS of experience in the sales industry. Chapters: Thinking about what brings you the most joyHow he found out about community and got his 1st gigShooting your shotGetting real with C School projectsProcess vs Goals MindsetAdding points to the scoreboardRapid fire round --- --- --- Links and Resources: Derrick’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/derrick-chiu/ Generalist World - https://www.generalist.world/ Cirkel - https://cirkel.co/ Rosieland - https://rosie.land/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Sharath Kuruganty has worked with some iconic community led companies like Product Hunt, OnDeck and currently Threado, where he is the Head of Community. A fun fact - Threado’s co-founder, Pramod Rao was guest no. 2 on this show. So this conversation has been a long time coming. What made it happen this time is Sharath's recent win where he sold his side project Shoutout to a UK based product studio. He started building this project about two years ago and reached $30k ARR with it. In this episode: Creating ShoutoutHow to approach selling when you are not a salespersonBuilding in public aka Power of the internetMoving to the USWorking with Naval RavikantHow to pay bills while working on side projectsRapid fire round --- --- --- Links and Resources: Sharath’s website 👉 https://5harath.com/ Sharath’s Twitter 👉 https://twitter.com/5harath Shoutout 👉 https://shoutout.io/shoutout-new/ The Angel Philosopher 👉 https://theangelphilosopher.com/ --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Bri Leever is the founder of Ember Consulting where she helps companies as their Brand Community Strategist working to create a community out of their superfans. In this episode: 0:00 Teaser9:02 How Bri got clientele for 1.5 years in 90 days17:30 A repeatable playbook for you to get your 1st client28:42 How can you use a community to acquire more customers for your business32:09 On the diversification of income43:34 Pricing clients55:54 Rapid fire round  --- --- --- Links and Resources: Bri’s LinkedIn 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/in/briannaleever/ Groove (co-working app for solopreneurs) 👉 https://www.groove.ooo/ Designing Your Life (book) 👉 https://amzn.eu/d/46mBTbe --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.

Shre is the fractional Head of Community for Lenny Rachitsky’s paid community of 10,000+ product-minded people - one of the most popular paid online communities. But that’s not it. He has pivoted away from lucrative careers in management consulting and at big companies in his pursuit for more meaningful work. Today, he is a consultant and describes himself as Dobby - a slave elf from the Harry Potter world who freed himself. In this episode: 2:50: Why he has “only taken paycuts”10:10: Does he compare himself with his peers from college?13:42: Why quitting a job shouldn’t be too scary in your 20s18:35: How Shre realised it was time to move on from his big startup idea26:15: How he went from member to Community Manager at Lenny’s community40:00: Being “Dobby”41:20: How he pitches himself to new clients46:30: How he finds opportunities that have not been posted publicly51:22: Rapid-fire round --- --- --- Thanks for listening! If you have come this far you’ll love other episodes. But you probably don’t have 1 hr every week to listen to all the episodes. That’s why you should sign up for our newsletter. We recently started it to share the key insights from these conversations in a more digestible, readable format. So go to beginnermaps.com to sign up for our weekly newsletter.