Rylan Clark is joined by comedian Phil Wang for a revealing conversation about racial stereotypes, banter culture in comedy, body hair and feeling nervous around builders.

Rylan opens up the fault lines of masculinity in lively and revealing conversations with diverse, prominent figures and celebrities. Together they explore toxic masculinity, old-fashioned male stereotypes, gender identity, body image, parenthood, how to educate the next generation, role models and cultural differences to try to understand How to Be a Man in the 2020s. Series Editor: Yvonne Alexander Executive Producer: Kevin Mundye A Mindhouse production in association with Simple Beast for BBC Radio 4