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Borderline

One Lane Bridge (Isabelle Roughol)

Borderline is a podcast for defiant global citizens covering geopolitics, immigration and lives that straddle borders, with host Isabelle Roughol.
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10-06-2020
2 mins
[Essay] We don't need a global news brand. We need a globally literate media.[Replay] How the UK turned hostile to immigrants, with Colin Yeo[Replay] The end of the American century, with Wade DavisDonald Trump's lingering immigration legacy, with Susan J. Cohen
Susan J Cohen is an American immigration lawyer who has seen the last few decades of US immigration policy. She talks about the situation Joe Biden has inherited, after Donald Trump changed more than 400 immigration laws, rules and processes; why a record number of arrests has been made at the US Southern border; what is happening in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala or Haiti that is making people move north; and what the impact of the Trump presidency has been on immigrants, lawyers and activists.  Cohen is the founding partner of the immigration law practice at Boston firm Mintz, an author and a songwriter. In 2017 she was part of a small band of legal minds who fought the so-called "Muslim ban" in court and won a short-lived victory.📚 Journeys from There to Here: Stories of Immigrant Trials, Triumphs and Contributions. Susan J Cohen, with Steven Taylor. River Grove Books, 2021. Buy it here. (This affiliate link supports Borderline.) 🎶 Beyond the Borders and Looking for the Angels, written by Susan Cohen and performed by students and alumni of the Berklee College of Music in Boston, Massachussetts.  Show notes[00:00:16] Intro[00:01:32] The immigration situation Joe Biden inherited[00:05:21] Title 42 and Remain in Mexico: How the US keeps lawful asylum-seekers at bay[00:08:49] What it's like to wait at the US Southern border[00:12:43] A historical record for arrests at the Southern border[00:15:13] What's happening in Central America and Haiti to push people north[00:18:42] The massive problems we'd need to solve to stem migration flows[00:22:27] Patterns of discrimination and aggression at the border[00:26:58] How the American public feels about immigration[00:29:46] Changing the perception of immigrants★ Support this podcast ★
08-12-2021
44 mins
Busting myths about refugees and Channel crossings, with Daniel Sohege
Crossing the Channel without preauthorisation is legal, the vast majority of people crossing are rightful asylum seekers and there is no such thing as the "first safe country" rule. Also, there is no queue to wait in or to jump, most people aren't trafficked or smuggled, and only a trickle of the world's refugees arrive in rich countries. Refugee rights consultant Daniel Sohege breaks down the false arguments about asylum seekers making the rounds in media and on Twitter. Show notes[00:00:22] Intro[00:03:05] Is this a migrant crisis?[00:06:01] Channel crossings are for many the only option. Still, very few take it.[00:07:25] There just isn't a queue to jump to apply for asylum[00:09:43] "First safe country" is a myth[00:11:55] Arriving by boat without pre-authorisation is not illegal[00:12:46] Most border crossings are not arranged by smugglers[00:16:14] Hard border controls can feed smuggling and trafficking businesses[00:19:47] Airlines and other carriers can be fined for unknowingly helping people carry out their legal right to seek asylum[00:21:35] 98% of those people who cross the Channel seek asylum[00:26:22] How French police harasses asylum seekers[00:27:57] What do we prioritise: the border or human life?[00:31:10] There are better ways to spend our countries' money than on draconian border controls[00:33:08] What a better refugee system could look like[00:36:11] Rich nations are not taking their fair share[00:41:43] Outro🐦 Follow Daniel Sohege  at @stand_for_all★ Support this podcast ★
01-12-2021
43 mins
Why we go back to where we come from, with Kamal al-SolayleeWhy mass migration is inevitable, with Parag KhannaA conversation on (not quite) everything, with Jonn ElledgeLiving stateless, with Christiana BukaloWhy you should leave the door open to strangers, with Will Buckingham
Will Buckingham gave me my new favourite word. He's a philosopher so it's only right the word should be Greek. Philoxenia is the word. Love of the foreign. It's that sense of curiosity, desire to connect and good will that make us seek out those we don't know and invite them to share our hearth. It's the cat that runs up to a house guest to smell his hand and rub against new legs. But we fear the stranger too as much as we wish for him. The cat hisses, scratches and hides under the sofa. You know that word – xenophobia. Will Buckingham explores what the stranger means to us and why philoxenia is worth cultivating. In this episode: 🤝 home is a social network 💪 stranger danger is male danger 🏡  safety at home, danger abroad is a false story 👀 how busy-buddy neighbours keep us safe 👥 sorry introverts: you'll never be rid of strangersAlso backpacking in Pakistan, slow Ubers in Bangalore, Manggarai villages in Indonesia, a vicarage in Norfolk, a foggy morning in Prague, a Lithuanian philosopher called Emmanuel Levinas and paper-thin walls in Paris.Show notes[00:02:38] "You can think about home as a set of social network of belongings"[00:08:48] "I'll never again be lost in a foreign city"[00:11:49] "A split between the safety of the home and the risk of the outside"[00:15:15] Philoxenia vs xenophobia[00:18:31] "That notion of the inviolable home is quite culturally specific"[00:22:25] "Somebody would end up putting me up"[00:24:35] "There's always going to be somebody rocking up to break up your solitude"[00:28:39] Become a Borderline member[00:29:57] "Concentric circles of how we imagine belonging"[00:31:41] "The stranger brings me more than I can contain"[00:32:57] "An inconvenience worth having"[00:34:57] "Fear in the face of strangers is not wholly unreasonable"[00:39:50] Outro📚 Hello, Stranger: How We Find Connection in a Disconnected World, by Will Buckingham. Granta. 2021. Buy it here.📬 Sign up for Will's monthly newsletter🐦 Follow Will on Twitter @willbuckingham★ Support this podcast ★
14-10-2021
42 mins
Growing up undocumented in America, with Qian Julie WangTfw you lead a team you've never seen, with Ariane Bernard
Ariane Bernard founded Helio in 2020. Her startup has never known a world where you could network in person, meet clients and investors easily or work from a common space with your employees. How do you lead a team you've never seen? And in a multinational startup, how do you work past cultural barriers and incomprehensions when you can't look your coworkers in the eye? She had to find out the hard way. Highlights- "A lot of good team culture is safety, ultimately. You want a culture whose first achievement is the ability to say the words "I don't understand. I don't agree. I propose that we do X. Has anyone thought about Y?" If all team members, whether they are the most junior all the way to your executive team, equally feel like they have access to these words without risking something, then you have the making of solving for many other problems."- "Everything that helps you understand whether people are connecting with a particular goal, everything that helps you understand whether people understand, everything counts because the distance does not help us."- "The uncertainty is, what am I not getting and what is this company not getting if we are not as fully present and as fully engaged as we could be?"- "The complexity of the distributed team is compounded by our cultural differences." - "I don't have a problem going to an American and being like, "turn on your camera, what the hell!" Because the worst thing that happens is that they'll be like, "no, and here's why." But when you're working with folks who come from cultures that you only know in a much more superficial way, those are exactly the things that become like, what am I actually asking them? It feels like I'm just asking them to turn on the camera. It can't be that much. But I don't actually know this. I don't know what this stands for." Show notes[00:00:00] Intro[00:03:14] Making the jump from intrapreneur to entrepreneur[00:06:57] Anchoring a new company culture without an office[00:10:12] Zoom cameras on, please[00:14:07] Take every opportunity to reduce uncertainty[00:15:52] When physical and culture distance combine[00:19:43] Do we still need culture?[00:25:54] "Do as I say" vs just one man's opinion[00:27:51] The Culture Map by Erin Meyer[00:29:31] Good culture is psychological safety[00:36:03] Resting bitch face and the curse of the screen [00:37:39] The benefits of hiring worldwide[00:41:29] If you had a choice... centralised or distributed? [00:44:32] Outro📺 Watch the full interview on Youtube🔆 Learn about Helio and apply to become an alpha user here★ Support this podcast ★
30-09-2021
45 mins
The US reopens to foreign visitors* (*terms and conditions apply), with Anna Lekas MillerHow China built the perfect police state, with Geoffrey Cain
It’s got the Big Brother and Newspeak of 1984, the predictive policing of Minority Report, the monitoring and neighbourly delation of the Stasi and the cultural erasure of the Khmer Rouge. And concentration camps. In Xinjiang, the Chinese Communist Party may well have created the perfect police state. Journalist Geoffrey Cain investigates the Uyghur genocide and reveals what happens in the real world when you combine totalitarian ideology with artificial intelligence.Show notes00:17 Intro02:26 A day in the life of a Uyghur woman07:28 Every totalitarian dystopia wrapped into one10:16 A 21st-century genocide12:32 The technology doesn't even need to be that good15:48 Why China went after the Uyghurs18:06 Membership ad19:47 How the return of the Taliban might impact the Uyghurs21:45 Dystopia in the dark24:34 How China exports its surveillance27:51 How Western corporations and economies got trapped30:44 The New Cold War32:46 The death of techno utopianism35:23 First let's fix the financial system 38:35 Outro📚The Perfect Police State, by Geoffrey Cain. Public Affairs. 2021. Buy it here.Samsung Rising, by Geoffrey Cain. Penguin Random House. 2020. Buy it here. 🐦 @geoffrey_cain and @iroughol Stories referenced🇦🇺 Facebook’s battle with Australia🇺🇸 Amazon and the NSA🇨🇳 Xinjiang’s cotton and Western brands💻 Apple’s terminated supplier Listen, read, support at borderlinepod.com. Chat with me on Twitter, LinkedIn or Instagram. ★ Support this podcast ★
16-09-2021
40 mins
Manifesto for a new nomadism, with Felix Marquardt[Extra] LinkedIn Live: How to make remote, hybrid and distributed work actually work, with Lauren RazaviWhat immigrants never tell you, with Dina Nayeri
Refugees are modern Scheherazades. They trade their story for another chance at life. The sultan is an indifferent asylum officer behind her desk, a well-meaning charity worker or a hostile native citizen. But so much truth goes untold. The exhausting expectations of gratitude, the long wait that douses your inner fire, the battle for dignity and the big impact of small acts… Iranian American novelist Dina Nayeri lifts the veil in The Ungrateful Refugee, her first memoir, weaving her personal story with reporting in Greek refugee camps. 02:18 Why she made the move from fiction to nonfiction05:07 How the refugee experience has changed from the 80s07:30 A culture of disbelief in immigration offices09:54 When refugees become storytellers to security guards14:18 How culture changes storytelling17:21 What you lose when you wait21:51 How womanhood and refuge interplay24:19 Why do we make a difference between political refugees and economic migrants?26:46 Stop asking what refugees can do for us28:45 Why dignity matters31:21 What are we entitled to as human beings? Why aren't others?33:16 Rawls' original position and American exceptionalism36:54 The US president changed, not the system38:53 What individuals can do to help40:19 Gratitude is private44:09 Political engagement is assimilation46:17 Outro📚 The Ungrateful Refugee, by Dina Nayeri. Canongate, 2020. Find it here.👀 The ungrateful refugee: ‘We have no debt to repay.’ By Dina Nayeri in The Guardian. 2017.📸 Anna Leader★ Support this podcast ★
06-07-2021
48 mins
The unkept promises of the Windrush scandal, with Amelia Gentleman
Through dogged reporting in The Guardian, Amelia Gentleman showed that British residents and citizens who had arrived from the Caribbean in the 1950s and 60s had been mistakenly classified as unauthorized immigrants. That came to be known as the Windrush Scandal. Three years on, I caught up with Amelia Gentleman ahead of Windrush Day to talk about its aging victims, the compensation scheme and the Home Office’s promises of reform. And in the waning days of the EU settlement scheme, we ask: Just as the Windrush generation was caught out by the end of free movement in the empire, could the Brexit generation be Britain’s next immigration scandal? 00:23 Intro02:42 Amelia Gentleman's career story04:20 The Windrush scandal: a primer08:14 Malice, incompetence or both?10:49 People screaming into the void14:42 When austerity and the hostile environment meet17:31 Individual cases were solved, but systemic issues ignored19:51 How these stories became "The Windrush Scandal"25:29 Has the compensation scheme held its promises?29:08 Could the EU Settlement Scheme be the next Windrush scandal?35:53 How do you relate to a country that has turned its back on you?44:07 Outro📚 The Windrush Betrayal, by Amelia Gentleman. Guardian Faber Publishing. 2020. 📰 Read Amelia's work in The Guardian. 🐦 Follow Amelia on Twitter.🎧 Related episodes on the British immigration system: 34 Wtf is going on at the Home Office? with Daniel Trilling 24 "We have a deeply unfeminist immigration system" with Zoe Gardner 30 Should we abolish borders? with Leah Cowan 23 When your passport locks you in with Selda Shamloo 05 How being nasty to immigrants became law with Colin Yeo★ Support this podcast ★
22-06-2021
46 mins
Wtf is going on inside the Home Office? with Daniel TrillingRaising global teens, with Dr Anisha Abraham

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