The Grace Tales

Georgie Abay

We're a podcast for women looking for style, substance, and solidarity. We celebrate the paradox of modern motherhood; the struggle and the beauty, the joy and the relentlessness. We’re known for our refreshingly honest and insightful conversations with parents, from celebrities to the extraordinary, ordinary women and men raising the next generation. The Grace Tales covers everything from the big questions (‘how to raise good humans’) to the very little ones (‘are cardigans cool again?’)

Our host is former Australian VOGUE deputy editor Georgie Abay. Back in 2013, pregnant with her first child, Georgie no longer felt quite at home in the glossy magazine world, but nor did she see herself reflected in the sea of mummy blogs and online forums. Thus, The Grace Tales was born – a content-first platform covering profiles, fashion, beauty, lifestyle, interiors and food.

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Sarah Salmon adopted two girls from Cambodia – it was always going to be her path
02-05-2023
Sarah Salmon adopted two girls from Cambodia – it was always going to be her path
Today’s guest is Sarah Salmon. She’s an Australian writer who lived in Asia for fifteen years, during which time she and her husband adopted two children – two girls – from Cambodia. Her memoir is entitled The Red Thread and it chronicles her struggle to complete her family while living in India. A psychic once told Sarah that she’d have ‘a dark-skinned child, not by the man you marry.’ Adoption was always going to be her path. In today’s episode, we talk a lot about the adoption process – and you’ll hear about the many hurdles she faced – and how she overcame them.   Early on in the book, Sarah writes that: ‘Orphanage babies don’t cry. There is no point in crying; they know no one will come for them, so they shut down… It’s the loudest silence I’ve ever heard.’ We speak about what it was like walking into an orphanage for the first time.   We also talk about the shocking corruption that exists in Cambodia and how she navigated this – and the sickening fact that at least a third of Cambodian prostitutes are children and girls as young as five are sold into prostitution in Cambodia for less than one hundred dollars. I know this is uncomfortable to hear, but we need more awareness around this shocking situation.   More than anything, I hope this episode will remind you that we all have our own unique path to motherhood – and rarely is it without twists and turns.   You can purchase The Red Thread here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Eve Rodsky argues that creativity is not optional
09-03-2023
Eve Rodsky argues that creativity is not optional
Now when my friend Reese Witherspoon describes a book as “Magnificent!” I pay attention. Ok obviously Reese is not my friend, but I wish she was because she has great taste in books. The book she’s talking about is called Find Your Unicorn Space and while I don’t have Reese on this podcast (yet!) I do have the brilliant author of this brilliant book Eve Rodsky.   Eve argues that creativity is not optional – and as someone who is a true creative at heart and spends most of my life trying to tap into that creativity – it’s a message I strongly believe in.   If you haven’t heard of Eve before, she made the New York Times bestseller list when she wrote Fair Play, a book which ignited a national conversation about greater equity in the home. She soon realised that even when the domestic workload becomes more balanced, people still report something missing in their lives - that is, unless they prioritise and devote time for activities that not only fill their calendars, but also unleash their creativity. She calls this vital time Unicorn Space - the active and open pursuit of creative self-expression in any form that makes you uniquely you.   If you’ve ever felt like something is missing, keep listening. Her book is an inspirational guide for setting new personal goals, rediscovering your interests, cultivating creativity, and reclaiming your “Unicorn Space.” We are going to talk through exactly how to do that – and what “unicorn space” really means - in today’s conversation.   Go to www.everodsky.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SME Founder Special: How Elise Pioch Created The Most Coveted Homewares Brand in Australia
22-11-2022
SME Founder Special: How Elise Pioch Created The Most Coveted Homewares Brand in Australia
Welcome back to The Grace Tales podcast. I’m your host, author and editor Georgie Abay. If you’ve been following over the last few weeks, you’ll know I’m running a mini-series with founders of SMES. Because whether you’ve launched your own business, or have a dream bubbling away in the back of your mind, I know how much hearing other people’s experience has helped me personally. Because launching a business – especially if you’re doing it solo – can feel lonely at times. But you’re not alone – more and more women are launching their own businesses. They’re looking for more flexibility, a better work-life balance, financial independence and also for meaningful work. I know after I had children, I wanted to make sure that when I was at work, it felt meaningful. If I was going to be away from my kids, I had to love what I was doing.   And on the topic of passion, today’s founder is full of it. Today’s episode is a special one – you’re going to meet my friend Elise Pioch, who is the exceptionally clever French founder of homewares brand Maison Balzac. If you don’t know Maison Balzac yet, it’s a very beautiful brand which started with candles, later expanding into beautiful homewares such as colourful glasses, vases and candle holders. The thing I love about Elise’s imagination is she dreams up unique objects which you didn’t know you needed until she created it. But what I love most about Maison Balzac, is that Elise’s authentic and kind nature can be felt. She’s always followed her gut instinct, is not afraid to take risks and leads with kindness and compassion. It was a decade ago I turned up at her office and photographed her for The Grace Tales. She just launched the business, and she’d just had a baby. Her daughter LouLou was only 6 weeks old at the time and it’s still one of my favourite stories. In this episode, Elise shares how the business has grown organically – she now has two retail stores - and what has kept her going over the last decade.    Let’s meet Elise!   Go to maisonbalzac.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
SME Founder Special: Alice McMullin’s Interiors Business Survived A Flood & A Fire – Here's How She Kept Going
02-11-2022
SME Founder Special: Alice McMullin’s Interiors Business Survived A Flood & A Fire – Here's How She Kept Going
Welcome back to The Grace Tales podcast. I’m your host, author, editor and the founder of The Grace Tales Georgie Abay. Today I’m kicking off a special mini-series where I’ll be interviewing female small and medium-sized enterprise founders. As someone who 10 years ago, left her dream job to launch a small business, how to start an SME is something I love talking about. Mostly because it’s really, really hard. But like all hard things, it’s worth it. And to take the leap, we need support. So think of this series as your support – and I hope that what you hear in these conversations might inspire you to launch that side hustle. So currently, 30% of businesses in Australia are owned by women – and that number is rising. I’m always interested in how these women actually get going in the first place? What happens when they suffer a crisis of confidence? And what’s it like running your own business?   These are all the questions I’m going to ask and I’m very excited to be kicking this series off with the amazing co-founder of furniture and homewares brand McMullin & Co Alice McMullin. A mother of two, she’s four years into her business – and why it looks like it all flows like clockwork from the outside, she’s worked hard to get where she is. There was the time her showroom was flooded. The time she lost all of her stock in a fire. And the time she was almost ready to quit, but invested her last 10K into a trade show. It turned out to be one of the best business decisions she’s made. She also used to get up at 5am with her baby and do a bread run to earn extra money while she was getting the business off the ground. So, it’s safe to say, founding her own business has been anything but straight-forward. Which is why I love the brand she’s created even more. I know you’re going to be as inspired by her determination, passion, and creativity as I am.   Now before we get started and meet Alice, I wanted to share that I’ve written a book called Best Laid Plans. It’s my most personal piece of writing to date, but I’ve also brought in the wise words of many of the women and men I’ve interviewed over the last few years. It feels really quite wonderful to have all the lessons I’ve learnt over the last few years – and actually a lifetime – in one book. There’s not a lot I don’t cover – love, loss, birth, motherhood, career – and I ask the question – what happens when life doesn’t go to plan? What do we do next? I hope you all read it and would love to hear what you think. Writing a book was a rather enormous undertaking, but I’m so happy it’s out in the world.   Ok, let’s meet Alice!   Visit mcmullinandco.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Emma Carey | The girl who – literally – fell from the sky
22-09-2022
Emma Carey | The girl who – literally – fell from the sky
Welcome back to The Grace Tales podcast. I’m your host Georgie Abay. I’m the founder of The Grace Tales, a mum, an editor, author and entrepreneur. Today you’re going to meet Emma Carey, who is the girl who fell from the sky. And when she says she fell from the sky, she means it quite literally. It’s the name of her new memoir, which takes us through what happened when she jumped out of a plane when she was just 20-years-old and her parachute didn’t open.    The day of the accident, Emma fell from 14,000 feet and she survived. She spent months in hospital as a paraplegic, slowing learning how to use her legs again. She also endured a six-year long court case. She’s courageous, resilient, and in this conversation, she shares her remarkable story.   Now before we start, I have some news. I wrote a book! It’s called Best Laid Plans, and will be out on September 27. Over the last decade, something that I hear time and again in the interviews is: “it wasn’t the plan.” Our lives so rarely unfold as we expect to them – and we’re constantly faced with unexpected twists and turns. So what exactly happens when our life doesn’t go to plan? Well, I wrote an entire book about it. My book is deeply personal – but I also bring in the stories of men and women I’ve had the privilege of interviewing over the last few years. I’d love you to pre-order it and thank you for your support.   Ok, let’s meet Emma Carey….  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ella Ward | How a cancer diagnosis led to her first book
29-06-2022
Ella Ward | How a cancer diagnosis led to her first book
Welcome back to The Grace Tales podcast. It’s been a while since I said hello, and I took a long break from recording. Mostly, because life got hectic, and I needed a break. I’ve never actually been good at knowing when to take a break. I’ll usually try and push through. But at the end of last year, I hit a wall. I needed to take some things off my plate. So I did, and this podcast was one of them. The break felt good, and I used it to finish a rather huge project I’ll be able to talk about very soon (spoiler, it’s a book out this year but more on that later!).   Editing today’s episode, which was recorded a couple of months ago, reminded me why I started this podcast – to create connection through stories. Today’s guest is pretty damn special for many reasons. We first crossed paths a few years ago when I discovered her on Instagram (I’ll link her account in the show notes). She had been diagnosed with cancer. She ended up writing a story for the grace tales on what it’s like being diagnosed with cancer. Then she wrote another on why therapy isn’t a dirty word. Then another on her reflections from the year that was. I loved every word she wrote. And so did our readers. I am so excited to share she’s just published her first book, and not surprisingly it’s bloody brilliant. It’s called 27 Letters To My Daughter and I hope you’ll all read it, because there’s so much in each and every letter. Ok, back to it. Our guest today is Ella Ward. Let’s meet her!  Purchase 27 Letters to My Daughter by Ella Ward  Follow @_msellabella See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Her Shoes Series: Becoming The Wittner CEO at 35
31-08-2021
In Her Shoes Series: Becoming The Wittner CEO at 35
When Wittner CEO Catherine Williamson set herself the goal of becoming CEO by 35, she wasn’t counting on giving birth to twin girls shortly after her 34th birthday. Despite the vision board she’d created around that particular milestone, she accepted that it wasn’t going to happen. Or not on schedule, at least. But manifestation is powerful, she says. And get there she did – at 35 years old. It had been a long road to CEO, with Williamson starting out at Wittner as a casual employee attracted by the staff discount. She was picked out for head office, and she remembers receiving the call while at a Ben Harper concert. But while Williamson runs a tight ship, responsible for steering one of Australia’s beloved heritage brands and its 500 staff through Covid, and a new chapter in sustainability - never mind the responsibilities of parenting twin pre-schoolers – don’t for a moment think she’s having it all. To kick off our In Her Shoes series, in partnership with Wittner, our founder Georgie Abay has interviewed Williamson. This exciting new series gives us the rare opportunity to briefly step into the lives of the women who inspire us and discover the strength, courage and ingenuity that has got them to where they are today. Williamson tells us about her leadership style and why she thinks women make great CEOs, as well as the traits her best bosses demonstrated, and what she’s learned about the motherhood penalty. It’s safe to say, Wittner’s future is in good hands. And great shoes, of course. Go to wittner.com.auSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Her Shoes Series: Why We Need To Talk About Period Poverty
24-08-2021
In Her Shoes Series: Why We Need To Talk About Period Poverty
Currently, 3.2 million Australians live below the poverty line and more than half of those people are women and young girls. Being able to afford sanitary products is a basic necessity – but sadly one that not everyone can afford. Period poverty is something we can’t ignore.   Which is why this week, we’re stepping into the shoes of two exceptional women – the Young Australian Of The Year 2021 Isobel Marshall and her best friend and business partner Eloise Hall. Together, they founded TABOO, a brand of menstrual health products that uses 100% of its profits to fund sanitary care and education programs. Did we mention that they founded the company while they were at school?  Our new ‘In Her Shoes’ series, in partnership with the iconic Australian footwear brand Wittner, gives us the rare opportunity to briefly step into the lives of the women who inspire us and discover the strength, courage and ingenuity that has got them to where they are today. We want to inspire you, motivate you, and for those in lockdown, help to lift you up. We also hope next time you’re purchasing sanitary products, you’ll consider TABOO – a company driven by passion and purpose.   In this episode, we ask the TABOO co-founders about how they’re tackling period poverty, making real change in the world, and building a brand from the ground up.  Also don’t miss our photo shoot with Isobel and Eloise, dressed in the joyful new Wittner Spring/Summer collection.   Go to tabooau.co | wittner.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.