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On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Dr. Gershon Baskin, a former Israeli Negotiator involved in the securing the release of Israeli hostages and the Middle East Director of the International Communities Organisation. He discusses the unpopularity of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government which has ‘no coherent strategy’ in the war against Palestinians in Gaza, the US’ ability to have stopped the war early on, and the effects of October 7th on Israeli society. The interview takes a heated turn where Afshin Rattansi and Dr. Baskin debate on the reports from Israeli media on what really happened on October 7th. Following this exchange, he discusses Benjamin’s Netanyahu’s long-game since the 2000s to prevent a two-state solution, his role in negotiating the release of Gilad Shalit and trying to secure a long-term ceasefire with Hamas which was stopped by an assassination conducted by Israel, why most Israelis continue to support the Israeli military’s bloody onslaught, why he believes a one-state solution is not viable and why the two-state solution is the only possible path to peace, why he believes Israel has committed war crimes and crossed moral red lines…but not committed genocide, and much more.